Anonymous wrote:Obviously this is terrible and please don't misconstrue anything I'm about to write as a defense of what this woman did. She murdered someone, it's terrible, I feel awful for the victim and her family. No one deserves that.

I used to see stuff like this and view it with detachment, like "oh that person must just be a bad person, I can't relate, why are people so terrible." But I went through something in the last few years (not a cheating partner, thankfully, something totally different) and experienced what I can only describe as social humiliation. It was crushing and really messed me up. I feel like I'd been deprived of my humanity, unfairly. I got very paranoid for a time and felt like everyone I knew was laughing at me and pitying me behind my back. I wound up quitting my job for a time, doing intensive therapy, and making several other big changes, and eventually got through it. It was the hardest thing I've ever done.

But now I understand how this stuff happens. I didn't kill anyone when this happened to me and I really don't think I would (I'm a pacifist and abhor guns), but now I get how it happens. When you feel humiliated in this way, it feels like there is nothing left to lose. If you are convinced that everyone hates you anyway, especially if it feels like they hate you for things that are not your fault and out of your control, it's like, well what's left? It's like your connection to society is severed. It's terrifying.

I think PPs are right that her anger stemmed from feeling like she was losing her plan for her future, and feeling this woman stole it from her. But I think the thing that made her willing to kill this woman, instead of just yelling at her spreading nasty rumors or something, was the sense of humiliation. It was being lied to and then finding out, feeling like everyone was in on a joke that she was the butt of. Or at least that's what I think. When I was going through this, I had violent thoughts I can't believe I had. Thoughts that scared me.

I've since vowed that if anyone I know ever goes through there, to show up and let them know they are loved and valued, that I'm not laughing at them. To remind them they are still human and they are still connected to someone. I wish this woman had had something like that.

Anonymous wrote:Obviously this is terrible and please don't misconstrue anything I'm about to write as a defense of what this woman did. She murdered someone, it's terrible, I feel awful for the victim and her family. No one deserves that.

I used to see stuff like this and view it with detachment, like "oh that person must just be a bad person, I can't relate, why are people so terrible." But I went through something in the last few years (not a cheating partner, thankfully, something totally different) and experienced what I can only describe as social humiliation. It was crushing and really messed me up. I feel like I'd been deprived of my humanity, unfairly. I got very paranoid for a time and felt like everyone I knew was laughing at me and pitying me behind my back. I wound up quitting my job for a time, doing intensive therapy, and making several other big changes, and eventually got through it. It was the hardest thing I've ever done.

But now I understand how this stuff happens. I didn't kill anyone when this happened to me and I really don't think I would (I'm a pacifist and abhor guns), but now I get how it happens. When you feel humiliated in this way, it feels like there is nothing left to lose. If you are convinced that everyone hates you anyway, especially if it feels like they hate you for things that are not your fault and out of your control, it's like, well what's left? It's like your connection to society is severed. It's terrifying.

I think PPs are right that her anger stemmed from feeling like she was losing her plan for her future, and feeling this woman stole it from her. But I think the thing that made her willing to kill this woman, instead of just yelling at her spreading nasty rumors or something, was the sense of humiliation. It was being lied to and then finding out, feeling like everyone was in on a joke that she was the butt of. Or at least that's what I think. When I was going through this, I had violent thoughts I can't believe I had. Thoughts that scared me.

I've since vowed that if anyone I know ever goes through there, to show up and let them know they are loved and valued, that I'm not laughing at them. To remind them they are still human and they are still connected to someone. I wish this woman had had something like that.

Anonymous wrote:Ladies, no man is worth this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to agree with Fertility Grandma/Brunch Witch. She snapped because this guy was HER LIFE PLAN and couldn’t envision a content life after him.

She killed the young woman, who is basically living an amazing life - Ivy League, woman engineer, champion sponsored athlete, great career & family.

The guy definitely wanted to be with the younger woman. The jilted girlfriend was not going to let him have his Happy Ending

And at age 35, the biological clock was basically done ticking. She knew it and we all know it as we all had girlfriends who were single and childless in their mid 30s and started to get a bit nuts. But of course a handful on disinfo feminists on dcum will pretend that's not real life. It's so easy to meet single men in your mid 30s. It's so easy to get pregnant in your mid-30s. Lies on lies on lies.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to agree with Fertility Grandma/Brunch Witch. She snapped because this guy was HER LIFE PLAN and couldn’t envision a content life after him.

She killed the young woman, who is basically living an amazing life - Ivy League, woman engineer, champion sponsored athlete, great career & family.

The guy definitely wanted to be with the younger woman. The jilted girlfriend was not going to let him have his Happy Ending

Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to agree with Fertility Grandma/Brunch Witch. She snapped because this guy was HER LIFE PLAN and couldn’t envision a content life after him.

She killed the young woman, who is basically living an amazing life - Ivy League, woman engineer, champion sponsored athlete, great career & family.

The guy definitely wanted to be with the younger woman. The jilted girlfriend was not going to let him have his Happy Ending

Anonymous wrote:Dude bought her the gun. It was almost like he played her to do his dirty work for him... Did Mo friendzone him for better-looking guys?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing the shooter was seething with rage because she's in her 30s and the cheater immature boyfriend has been leading her on for years -- no marriage, no kids while her fertility wanes.

OMG, the poster obsessed with fertility is back.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing the shooter was seething with rage because she's in her 30s and the cheater immature boyfriend has been leading her on for years -- no marriage, no kids while her fertility wanes.

OMG, the poster obsessed with fertility is back.

I don't know what you're referring to. But her staring down 35, lack of ring/marriage, very few viable eggs left, and still childless most certainly played a part in her allegedly committing this heinous act. She knows she just flushed her fertility prime down the toilet on this man-child who was clearly angling to leave her for a younger woman (in her own fertility prime). You want to know the likely future 12-18 months from now had she done nothing and let this relationship end (as it was headed)? She's 35 or 36, single, childless, and barren. The ex-bf marries the Dartmouth alum who immediately gets pregnant.

Brunch grandma, do you know that there are women in this world who are childfree by choice? They don't want kids. At all.