Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

Violent crime and road rage have also been around for a long time. Should we similarly legalize and enshrine them as cherished historical traditions?

It’s incredible how insane it makes you that you cannot use state violence against Black kids.

Anonymous wrote:It's racist to crack down on illegal ATV riders.

It's objectively not.

Lots of things are racist. You make it harder to fight real racism when you say stupid shit like this.

People in Baltimore hate the kids on ATVs too.

It's racist to crack down on illegal ATV riders.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand the angst in some posters when another poster merely suggests to watch a documentary on the subject. Why are people projecting onto that? DCUM never fails with the over the top responses.

The PPs have watched it. They just don't agree that criminal endangerment of other vehicles and pedestrians is something that should be celebrated.

Who is celebrating it? These dots don't connect.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand the angst in some posters when another poster merely suggests to watch a documentary on the subject. Why are people projecting onto that? DCUM never fails with the over the top responses.

The PPs have watched it. They just don't agree that criminal endangerment of other vehicles and pedestrians is something that should be celebrated.

I can’t understand the angst in some posters when another poster merely suggests to watch a documentary on the subject. Why are people projecting onto that? DCUM never fails with the over the top responses.

Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

So your impressions of DC come from tv commercials and a decade-old documentary about an entirely different city? Maybe you aren’t in a position to be lecturing anyone about anything. And yes I saw it — like, 10 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

Yes, completely.

At the same time, so what?

So everyone else is supposed to just watch mouths agape as these folks rip down city streets pulling wheelies?

I guess that’s what it takes to respect the uniqueness of this subculture?

PP here. Watching the documentary you understand the frustration the police have with policing this and the city trying several different options to try to deal with it. Lock everyone up vs get into chasing where someone gets hurt vs allow them to do it while you monitor vs having a designated place they can do it.

In no way did I suggest there needed to be respect of this subculture. But considering this documentary is 10 years old and back then police didn’t know how to get it under control it gives me even less hope. So please stop inferring things I never wrote.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cars without silencers, ambulances, police cars also are too noisy.

Exactly. Just focusing on ATVs is just another racist dog whistle.

the atvs and dirt bikes are louder than cars. Especially when speeding in a group o f10

I think the people who are so angered by this need to find ways to cope.

Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

Violent crime and road rage have also been around for a long time. Should we similarly legalize and enshrine them as cherished historical traditions?

Anonymous wrote:Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

Yes, completely.

At the same time, so what?

So everyone else is supposed to just watch mouths agape as these folks rip down city streets pulling wheelies?

I guess that’s what it takes to respect the uniqueness of this subculture?

Watch the documentary 12 o’clock boys about the start of this culture in Baltimore. It’s from 2013 and is pretty good. Racing and doing stunts on ATVs and dirt bikes has been around for a long time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move away, OP. It was the best decision we’ve ever made. My DH still works out of DC, but he can work remotely, we are only in the city for a few months out of the year.

Right now I can hear frogs, crickets, and a coyote in the distance. It’s heaven. You don’t have to live with noise pollution. Find a way out.

Classic white flight

Classic assumptions that the PP is white and that non-white people don’t care about quality of life issues like noise pollution.