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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

Yet another stupid juvenile response.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.

Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

Wow. You really don't get it. I am one of the biggest proponents of abstinence. I truly hope that my kids will wait to be physically intimate with someone until they are emotionally committed. But, things can happen -- random rape, date rape, lack of ability for consent (again rape) or just a poor decision. Has your kid never done something impulsive they wish they could take back? Never been in an accident? Never been a victim of anything? This is on the one hand incredibly condemning and on the other incredibly naive. Pharisee much?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.

Oh yes, you aren’t planning on it, unlike all those other parents who WERE planning on their daughters getting pregnant in college. I guess my best friend from high school was planning on getting attacked and raped at 4pm by a random stranger with a knife in an alley next to her dorm, but YOUR daughter is making no such plans so she should be fine.

Again, I don't quite get this. If she were raped, she would take the morning after pill. If her birth control pills failed she would get an early abortion. If early abortion is banned outright, I will take her elsewhere. There are a lot of options between regulating abortion and having 3rd trimester abortions legal. I mean seriously, how can any parent of a child support it? I honestly and sincerely dont see it. There will always be plenty of options for early abortions in the US but honestly its just easiest to put the girls on the pill or IUD, they are headed there anyway realistically. Who among us is still practicing natural family planning these days?

So you don't think that traveling out of state for an abortion won't be criminalized (it already has).

You don't think BC methods that prevent implantation could be banned (already there)?

So you don't think abortifacients could be banned?

Who is talking about making 3rd trimester abortions legal, unless under extreme circumstances threatening the life of the mother?

Just curious, but where has Plan B been banned (you wrote "already there")? Nowhere to my knowledge, but maybe I am missing something. And I don't consider proposed laws the same as approved laws. Most proposed laws never get passed. And lots of anti-abortion supporters have no problem with the pill, by the way.

I'm not the PP you're responding to, but 13 states have "trigger laws" that will bad abortion once Roe is officially overturned. They are already laws on the books, but by their own language do not go into effect until a state official certifies Roe is overturned. Additionally, several states have laws on the books that pre-date Roe; these are unenforceable while Roe stands but would become enforceable after it falls. These laws are written broadly enough to cover things that prevent (or that Republicans believe prevent) implantation, including the Pill, Plan B, and IUDs.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.

Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.

Young women have sex in college and some get pregnant. Thinking your child is “immune” to this fact of life since the beginning of time is living in denial of reality.

Those that don’t think this could affect their student, are you watching what’s happening in Louisiana tonight?

https://www.newsweek.com/louisiana-law-would-ban-abortion-conception-punishable-murder-1704013

I could not in good conscience send my child to school in a state with this type of draconian law if it passes.

Anonymous wrote:No, my children are adults who can make their own choices, and I will support them. They think for themselves and they believe abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
They also happen to know the difference between “effecting” and “affecting.”

Thanks smug DCUM parent. I know the difference too and made a typo without thinking. My kids will head off to college before they are adults. They are both young for their grade. That’s why I will be having these discussions with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.

Oh yes, you aren’t planning on it, unlike all those other parents who WERE planning on their daughters getting pregnant in college. I guess my best friend from high school was planning on getting attacked and raped at 4pm by a random stranger with a knife in an alley next to her dorm, but YOUR daughter is making no such plans so she should be fine.

Again, I don't quite get this. If she were raped, she would take the morning after pill. If her birth control pills failed she would get an early abortion. If early abortion is banned outright, I will take her elsewhere. There are a lot of options between regulating abortion and having 3rd trimester abortions legal. I mean seriously, how can any parent of a child support it? I honestly and sincerely dont see it. There will always be plenty of options for early abortions in the US but honestly its just easiest to put the girls on the pill or IUD, they are headed there anyway realistically. Who among us is still practicing natural family planning these days?

This is such bad faith framing. Nobody gets 3rd trimester abortions without an extremely good reason, such as finding out that the fetus is non-viable. This information is easily ascertainable. People only bring up their trimester elective abortions when they want to engage in a debate on the basis of emotion rather than facts. But as long as this is the argument you want to have, I, the parent of three beloved children, find it abhorrent and unconscionable that you think the government should force women to remain pregnant with non-viable children, to suffer for months, risk permanent injury through pregnancy and childbirth, and then to hold their babies as they suffer and die painfully shortly after birth. Those are the people getting third trimester abortions. You are a monster.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.

Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.

Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.

Oh yes, you aren’t planning on it, unlike all those other parents who WERE planning on their daughters getting pregnant in college. I guess my best friend from high school was planning on getting attacked and raped at 4pm by a random stranger with a knife in an alley next to her dorm, but YOUR daughter is making no such plans so she should be fine.

Again, I don't quite get this. If she were raped, she would take the morning after pill. If her birth control pills failed she would get an early abortion. If early abortion is banned outright, I will take her elsewhere. There are a lot of options between regulating abortion and having 3rd trimester abortions legal. I mean seriously, how can any parent of a child support it? I honestly and sincerely dont see it. There will always be plenty of options for early abortions in the US but honestly its just easiest to put the girls on the pill or IUD, they are headed there anyway realistically. Who among us is still practicing natural family planning these days?

So you don't think that traveling out of state for an abortion won't be criminalized (it already has).

You don't think BC methods that prevent implantation could be banned (already there)?

So you don't think abortifacients could be banned?

Who is talking about making 3rd trimester abortions legal, unless under extreme circumstances threatening the life of the mother?

Just curious, but where has Plan B been banned (you wrote "already there")? Nowhere to my knowledge, but maybe I am missing something. And I don't consider proposed laws the same as approved laws. Most proposed laws never get passed. And lots of anti-abortion supporters have no problem with the pill, by the way.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.

Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

Anonymous wrote:The late stage abortion straw man…

Ffs, you people never learn

Birth control fails and condoms break.

Honestly, I’m also going to be certain that the closest hospital to any campus my child looks at is NOT run by Catholics. They also refuse life saving procedures and I refuse to let my child die because they don’t “believe” in something

You people are all so damn naive to think that it is all just going to magically work out for YOUR kid

+100

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Anonymous wrote:As far as abortion laws go, that would not be a determining factor since we have the wherewithal to get the necessary medication elsewhere, and I will be fully open with my kids regarding their options. It’s the women without support and resources who will suffer the brunt of those laws.

If the new law gets signed in Louisiana, the repurcussions once an egg is fertilize poses criminal liability, despite whatever necessary medication you think you can get.

On that one, I wonder what would that also mean for invitro and all those frozen fertilized eggs? This can have repercussions beyond the obvious ones.