Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. How does their vaccination status affect you? You can still get it. If you’re vaxxed, you’re protected from serious illness - they’re not. How is this an issue still?

For some people it's a religious issue. It's not rational. It's like rules forbidding mixing of unrelated men and women.

OP, you wanted to create a "situation." Of course they aren't testing every week. You know that. You were using the question to try to show how much smarter you are. They got offended, they don't want to see you. You probably don't need to worry about this again because they won't want to have brunch with you!

Vaccinated people are spreading COVID too. At this point with what we know about vaccines and transmission, it’s really a political move to treat vax vs unvaxxed different. My family is all vaxxed and boosted. We take a rapid test before getting together with elderly otherwise vulnerable. Otherwise we are living our lives mask-few and don’t test unless symptomatic.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, does vaccination actually matter anymore? I'm vaxed and have also had covid twice.

Yes, I would go see your cousins.

+1

Vaccine is useless when it comes to preventing catching and spreading covid. Eating with unvaxed is so safer than eating with vaxed. Stop using vaccination status as an excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:All these “you can still get it if your vaxed” people must intentionally misunderstand. I can’t believe they say it and can’t comprehend that vaccines help immensely but not 100%.

Montgomery county has like a 99% vax rate. So pretty much everyone getting it here is vaxxed. So pretty sure it’s fair to say that “you can still get it if your vaxxed”

Of course it's fair to say. My point was they then make the stupid leap to "and so what's the point of being vaxxed if you can still get it." That's the part that drives me crazy. Also, Montgomery county is 87% fully vaccinated. I was just curious when you said 99% so I looked it up. Not arguing that it's not high- it is super high. Just FYI.

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Anonymous wrote:The CDC has recognized the protection against hospitalization and death for covid for quite awhile now. There was a study back in January that showed that prior infection of delta provided stronger protection against infection than vaccination (Leon et al, MMWR).

42% of Omicron deaths in a recent two month study were vaccinated (no, I’m not antivax and yes, I and my whole immediate family are vaccinated). 2/3 of all the deaths were over age 75.

OP is right to be concerned for her mom coming into close unmasked contact at a restaurant with an entire antivax family. Also, most loud antivaxxers also make other stupid choices that increase their risk of getting and spreading COVID.

Wash Post:

“Experts say they are not surprised that vaccinated seniors are making up a greater share of the dead, even as vaccine holdouts died far more often than the vaccinated during the omicron surge, according to the CDC. As more people are infected with the virus, the more people it will kill, including a greater number who are vaccinated but among the most vulnerable…

Even though the death rates for the vaccinated elderly and immunocompromised are low, their losses numbered in the thousands when cases exploded, leaving behind blindsided families. But experts say the rising number of vaccinated people dying should not cause panic in those who got shots, the vast majority of whom will survive infections…

The bulk of vaccinated deaths are among people who did not get a booster shot, according to state data provided to The Post. In two of the states, California and Mississippi, three-quarters of the vaccinated senior citizens who died in January and February did not have booster doses.”

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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.

I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.

Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.

PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.

This illogic drives me insane: “I refuse to be around my unvaccinated family and friends, whom I love (presumably), but I’m fine being around strangers, some of whom are surely unvaccinated.”

If you are going to restaurants, you are near unvaccinated people, so why not let some of those unvaccinated people be people you care about?

You’re a moron. Are those people sitting at the same table?

Lol bc covid respects the boundaries of your table??

Anonymous wrote:All these “you can still get it if your vaxed” people must intentionally misunderstand. I can’t believe they say it and can’t comprehend that vaccines help immensely but not 100%.

Montgomery county has like a 99% vax rate. So pretty much everyone getting it here is vaxxed. So pretty sure it’s fair to say that “you can still get it if your vaxxed”

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Anonymous wrote:Has your elderly mother been vaccinated?

If she has I wouldn't worry about it.
If she hasn't she doesn't care so neither should you.

Your information is very out of date. Keep up.

Different poster. Above seems very accurate to me. What is your “up to date” info ?

People don’t understand how this vaccine works… worry about your own status OP. The vaccine protects you against a severe covid case. The primary goal of this vaccine is not to prevent transmission. Your cousins are endangering themselves, the effect on you of their vaccination status is not serious enough that you should ostracize them

This is your decision. You know what you want or you don’t. Don’t crowd source.

This questions make an already hard situation stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was an old thread that someone has dug up.
I am vaccinated but I honestly think we need to just let it all go.
Our next threat is a possible nuclear strike or a ww3. Let’s move on from covid.
And yes I would decline too!

For low risk vaccinated and boosted people I agree though I don’t have room in my life for stupid anymore and anti vaxxers are the pinnacle of stupid. For high risk which includes the elderly yeah they need to stay away from the unvaccinated, especially in a prolonged situation like dining together where the at risk person would not have a mask.

I never ask for anyone’s vax status. As for the elderly I let them decide. I am 46 but hopefully I am not too afraid of death by the time I am 76 and my kid is grown.

You should be afraid of a COVID death at any age. Clearly you aren’t a healthcare worker.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.

I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.

Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.

PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.

This illogic drives me insane: “I refuse to be around my unvaccinated family and friends, whom I love (presumably), but I’m fine being around strangers, some of whom are surely unvaccinated.”

If you are going to restaurants, you are near unvaccinated people, so why not let some of those unvaccinated people be people you care about?

You’re a moron. Are those people sitting at the same table?

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, at this point why bother with the anti-vaxxer crowd? Haven't they done enough damage? Their actions and votes are quite literally destroying the country.

Get that toxicity out of your life.

+1,000,000. Don’t waste your time on stupid people.

Anonymous wrote:Has your elderly mother been vaccinated?

If she has I wouldn't worry about it.
If she hasn't she doesn't care so neither should you.

Your information is very out of date. Keep up.