Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:35
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
Dude, shut up. This is not a nothing burger. The market is looking very sick and there has been a lot of pain already. You are only looking at indexes propped up by mega caps, but many companies have already gotten haircuts by like 50%. There's no depth to the market at all.
Dude? Get your big boy pants on. It's going to be OK. We may drop 30% from the high, but thus is NORMAL. Maybe not since you've been in the market, but if you take the long view as all the smarter (than you) folks are suggesting you'll make money in the end. Just don't pull your money out and keep drip feeding. Or just stop putting money in because you don't really have the balls to be in.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:28
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
I think what people are trying to say is that usually the BEST time to buy is when nobody wants to own stocks. That's clearly not yet based just on the small sample here. You bet I was buying stocks when Bill Ackman was crying on tv in March 2020 or whenever it was but that's not now, we aren't there yet. And to my point- I bought USO on April 20, 2020, had I waited just another week I would have gotten it a further 50% off and effectively doubled my profits. Timing does matter in fast.moving markets, though admittedly it's 99% luck.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:08
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Terrible analogy. Because now we have record inflation and a tightening fed raising rates and primed to destroy cash. The era of easy money and historic bull run after 2008 is over.
Will people stop it. We do not have record inflation. Did you not live through the 70s and early 80s? My grandparents had all of there money in the bank. They took 200k to 500k with passbook savings accounts. All will be fine.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:05
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Terrible analogy. Because now we have record inflation and a tightening fed raising rates and primed to destroy cash. The era of easy money and historic bull run after 2008 is over.
Ok - go back to the 70s and 80s - where is your portfolio?
Market moves 10% and all of a sudden everyone is an expert. Like clockwork.
The only advice I can give you is to take Xanax, a lot of it.
Since your an expert. How far will it drop?
New poster but it looks like SPX 3800 is the next major support level.
WOW so less than a 10% decline from here?! It's the end of the world!
Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:05
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you do with your money in a situation like this.
I’ve been steady investing 15-% of my net paycheck every 2 weeks into my taxable brokerage account. I’m going to just more doing this. It’s worked out well for me
That's fine, just don't expect rebounds like 2008-2021. The era of easy money and the bull market is over. Bear markets can last for very, veryong times. You better lrepr.for holding 10+ years in a worst case scenario. The Fed put is over because inflation is out of control. Bond yields are crawling out of their grave, which means there will be very attractive options in the future besides investing in stocks. Trillions may flow from stocks and into bonds.
You do you. We should have some steady returns and down years ahead. But no reason to think that overall there will be a reasonable rate of return on investments. 2008 was over by 2012. 1987 was over by 1992 at the latest.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 18:03
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Terrible analogy. Because now we have record inflation and a tightening fed raising rates and primed to destroy cash. The era of easy money and historic bull run after 2008 is over.
Ok - go back to the 70s and 80s - where is your portfolio?
Market moves 10% and all of a sudden everyone is an expert. Like clockwork.
The only advice I can give you is to take Xanax, a lot of it.
Since your an expert. How far will it drop?
New poster but it looks like SPX 3800 is the next major support level.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:54
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Terrible analogy. Because now we have record inflation and a tightening fed raising rates and primed to destroy cash. The era of easy money and historic bull run after 2008 is over.
Ok - go back to the 70s and 80s - where is your portfolio?
Market moves 10% and all of a sudden everyone is an expert. Like clockwork.
The only advice I can give you is to take Xanax, a lot of it.
Since your an expert. How far will it drop?
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:51
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaannd Google missed. MSFT did not post a strong ER with bullish guidance....if their call does not impress it is game over for the market.
This is going to get very ugly quick. Now the mega caps that make up the largest weighted portion of the indexes are going to get pounded into bone dust. Tesla just fell 11% in a day and makes up a huge portion of the index. This is going to be so brutal. We aren't even into sell in May and go away yet..oof.
LOL "game over". It's only brutal if you have a stupid portfolio populated with tech stocks.
you people panic so much...if you are panicking why are you invested?? The dow is down less than 10% YTD, S&P Down 12% and the NASDAQ is down 20%. if you are down more than 20% you clearly have no idea what you're doing. The NASDAQ is not "the market."
These types of declines are quite regular. Most investors just have a short term bias. Value stocks are holding up quite well. If you diversify just go back to bed and come back in a few months.
You are the dumb mindless type programmed to automatically buy the dip, because the fed was always there to save you over the last 14 years. The game is over because the Fed put no longer exists..so many idiots primed to buy any dip are going to get torched. The market has almost zero experience with quantitative tightening, so no, it really cannot be priced in easily as predictable rates hikes can that have models. Once QT happens it will also. completely upend the equity risk premium for owning stocks and.teillions will flow into bonds.
You are an idiot of you are oblivious to the lack of depth in this market. Once Apple, Tesla, Google, and Microsoft fall, all of the people that.mindlessly plug away investing into funds and ETFs that largely track the S and P 500.will get crushed.. There are tons of boomers now on the verge of retiring who may lose a huge amount of the retirement nest egg right before retiring.
Get it through your skull. There is no more fed put. There is QT.
LOL
I'm partner at a 6B investment firm whose made millions investing for others. But sure. I'll trust you and all your credentials. I speak with people like you all the time, fire them, then they crawl back a few years later because they have all their money in cash and missed the rebound.
I'll do my way. You be an irrational investor who let's their emotions dictate a long term investment plan.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:37
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Terrible analogy. Because now we have record inflation and a tightening fed raising rates and primed to destroy cash. The era of easy money and historic bull run after 2008 is over.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:34
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaannd Google missed. MSFT did not post a strong ER with bullish guidance....if their call does not impress it is game over for the market.
This is going to get very ugly quick. Now the mega caps that make up the largest weighted portion of the indexes are going to get pounded into bone dust. Tesla just fell 11% in a day and makes up a huge portion of the index. This is going to be so brutal. We aren't even into sell in May and go away yet..oof.
LOL "game over". It's only brutal if you have a stupid portfolio populated with tech stocks.
you people panic so much...if you are panicking why are you invested?? The dow is down less than 10% YTD, S&P Down 12% and the NASDAQ is down 20%. if you are down more than 20% you clearly have no idea what you're doing. The NASDAQ is not "the market."
These types of declines are quite regular. Most investors just have a short term bias. Value stocks are holding up quite well. If you diversify just go back to bed and come back in a few months.
You are the dumb mindless type programmed to automatically buy the dip, because the fed was always there to save you over the last 14 years. The game is over because the Fed put no longer exists..so many idiots primed to buy any dip are going to get torched. The market has almost zero experience with quantitative tightening, so no, it really cannot be priced in easily as predictable rates hikes can that have models. Once QT happens it will also. completely upend the equity risk premium for owning stocks and.teillions will flow into bonds.
You are an idiot of you are oblivious to the lack of depth in this market. Once Apple, Tesla, Google, and Microsoft fall, all of the people that.mindlessly plug away investing into funds and ETFs that largely track the S and P 500.will get crushed.. There are tons of boomers now on the verge of retiring who may lose a huge amount of the retirement nest egg right before retiring.
Get it through your skull. There is no more fed put. There is QT.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:29
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.
I am a so called expert and have no clue. No one does. Your friends that are experts don't know either. We are just paid to provide our thoughts. I can go on CNBC and say we are nowhere near the bottom or we are at the bottom. Half the people would believe, half would think I am crazy. Hold on, keep investing and it will pass. Remember COVID? Remember 2008? Remember 2001? Look where your portfolio is now.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:26
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaannd Google missed. MSFT did not post a strong ER with bullish guidance....if their call does not impress it is game over for the market.
This is going to get very ugly quick. Now the mega caps that make up the largest weighted portion of the indexes are going to get pounded into bone dust. Tesla just fell 11% in a day and makes up a huge portion of the index. This is going to be so brutal. We aren't even into sell in May and go away yet..oof.
LOL "game over". It's only brutal if you have a stupid portfolio populated with tech stocks.
you people panic so much...if you are panicking why are you invested?? The dow is down less than 10% YTD, S&P Down 12% and the NASDAQ is down 20%. if you are down more than 20% you clearly have no idea what you're doing. The NASDAQ is not "the market."
These types of declines are quite regular. Most investors just have a short term bias. Value stocks are holding up quite well. If you diversify just go back to bed and come back in a few months.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:21
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Aaaaaannd Google missed. MSFT did not post a strong ER with bullish guidance....if their call does not impress it is game over for the market.
This is going to get very ugly quick. Now the mega caps that make up the largest weighted portion of the indexes are going to get pounded into bone dust. Tesla just fell 11% in a day and makes up a huge portion of the index. This is going to be so brutal. We aren't even into sell in May and go away yet..oof.
This is going to get very ugly quick. Now the mega caps that make up the largest weighted portion of the indexes are going to get pounded into bone dust. Tesla just fell 11% in a day and makes up a huge portion of the index. This is going to be so brutal. We aren't even into sell in May and go away yet..oof.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:19
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
Dude, shut up. This is not a nothing burger. The market is looking very sick and there has been a lot of pain already. You are only looking at indexes propped up by mega caps, but many companies have already gotten haircuts by like 50%. There's no depth to the market at all.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 17:16
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:01 wasn’t bad at all, unless you were all tech invested and/or worked in tech.
08 was terrible, unemployment and investments, we were close to a total financial collapse due to the housing bubble and leverage
22 ?? What is collapsing? Stocks are down 10%, this is just regular market moves, happens every few years. Where is the meltdown coming from. No collapse in housing, may decline a bit due to mortgage rates but there is no foreclosure crisis based on better lending standards. Company profits look solid. Maybe there is some mystery bubble in finance but nobody can predict that one.
Nasdaq is down 20% from its peak last year. That is actually quite a bit.
It's not. Normal stuff.
Down 20% in 3 months is not normal. It shows that the market was (and still is) very inflated. Big banks are warning of a recession, not that it’s a big surprise.
That is utter noise. We are up 300% since 2016. There is no way we are dropping anywhere near that; Nasdeq companies are taking over the world
DP- Nasdaq on track for it's worse month since October 2008. Take that as you will.
The worst month since the longest bull market ever started... again, nothing burger.
I have no idea how low the market will go, but I do know that the things that concern the market -- rising interest rates, Fed liquidating its balance sheet, supply chain problems (due to China covid shutdowns as well as Russia/Ukraine), are just getting started. Oil prices aren't higher than they are because the market is pricing in a demand drop. The market has been borrowing from the future, and now it's time to pay the piper.
Has the market priced in all these things properly? Maybe. Maybe not. Every expert I know thinks we're not anywhere near the bottom.