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Anonymous wrote:Was browsing Reddit and this video made the front page. It is absolutely terrifying:

https://v.redd.it/8yh42x9n3ls81

That's the sound of a city of 20 million people being forced to lockdown due to the govt's mandate for zero COVID. The lockdown was put in place suddenly, so people didn't have time to prepare. Many are running out of food, and they cannot even step one foot outside of their apartment doors. There is no food deliver, and everything is shutdown, so they couldn't even buy food if they wanted to. Some people even said authorities were flying drones with speakers warning people not to open their balcony doors and that they should not sing while standing outside:

I can't believe this country is supposed to take over the world. This is some terrifying dystopian stuff and what happens when a govt gets too much power over people's lives. I guess imprisoning and starving people is better than COVID. The trucker convoy really needs to go to Shanghai, not DC.

I mean, I pretty casually watch the news and I have understood that China is a pretty freaky dystopian state for many years now. The only people who can actually change that are the Chinese themselves.

Casual Chinese news watchers would probably think there's a lot of dystopian stuff going on here too.

This is called whataboutism, a classic propaganda technique.

Start your own thread if you would like to discuss the US.

The Chinese government almost never engages in whataboutism, It kept its mouth shut about America's historical abuses of its own people - which defines the majority of America's few hundred years of history. China pretty much ignores what America has to say and minds its own business.
It would be the US that is constantly criticizing other countries and cultures, projecting its own insecurities.

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Anonymous wrote:Was browsing Reddit and this video made the front page. It is absolutely terrifying:

https://v.redd.it/8yh42x9n3ls81

That's the sound of a city of 20 million people being forced to lockdown due to the govt's mandate for zero COVID. The lockdown was put in place suddenly, so people didn't have time to prepare. Many are running out of food, and they cannot even step one foot outside of their apartment doors. There is no food deliver, and everything is shutdown, so they couldn't even buy food if they wanted to. Some people even said authorities were flying drones with speakers warning people not to open their balcony doors and that they should not sing while standing outside:

I can't believe this country is supposed to take over the world. This is some terrifying dystopian stuff and what happens when a govt gets too much power over people's lives. I guess imprisoning and starving people is better than COVID. The trucker convoy really needs to go to Shanghai, not DC.

I mean, I pretty casually watch the news and I have understood that China is a pretty freaky dystopian state for many years now. The only people who can actually change that are the Chinese themselves.

Casual Chinese news watchers would probably think there's a lot of dystopian stuff going on here too.

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Anonymous wrote:China took a different aproach to Covid. They would look at the US and point out we've had over 1 million deaths from Covid, while China has had under 5,000.

There is a "cost" to both approaches. The Chinese approach means people are stuck in their apartments for weeks on end, and subject to draconian rules. The US approach provided a whole lot more freedom, but at the cost of over a million lives.

There are far more costs to the Chinese approach than simply being bored in their apartments for a few weeks. Covid is being prioritized over all other medical concerns. And if Chiba truly cared about its citizens it would have developed or accessed an effective vaccine. Of course there is fear of overwhelming the health system when even your vaccinated citizens aren’t all that protected against hospitalization/death relative to the unvaxxed.

The US hasn’t been perfect on Covid by any means, but since last spring the majority of people dying from Covid were unvaccinated. Choices have consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

Okay, so when an American moves to another American city where they were not born, are they allowed to enroll their kids into the nearby public schools?

Are they allowed to go to any hospital in a different city?

Are they allowed to register to have multiple children?

Because if you don't have a hukou and live in that same city, you don't have all of those privileges. And, you can't get these privileges by "registering." If merely registering were the solution, there would be no problem.

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

DP. You don't seem to understand what you're trying to argue. Americans can move anywhere in the country, there's no restriction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Anonymous wrote:China took a different aproach to Covid. They would look at the US and point out we've had over 1 million deaths from Covid, while China has had under 5,000.

There is a "cost" to both approaches. The Chinese approach means people are stuck in their apartments for weeks on end, and subject to draconian rules. The US approach provided a whole lot more freedom, but at the cost of over a million lives.

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

NP. None of that is required.