Anonymous wrote:Haven’t seen a thread on this but this is interesting news. Musk calls himself a free speech absolutist and has expressed his dismay over Twitter censorship for a while. Will Trump be reinstated? [twitter] https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1510952904009695240?s=21&t=IORZHgFnuSj_JR3lk0ZlCA[/twitter]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like he is already making improvements. LOL.

Great news!

Anonymous wrote:Looks like he is already making improvements. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

Babylon Bee violated Twitter's terms of service:
"You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease."

I mean, these are the rules of Twitter - a private company. Babylon Bee wanted to harass a person based on their gender identity, which isn't allowed under Twitter's TOS. Babylon Bee is free to harass that person on their own website.

So does ISIS. So does Iran. So do a lot of Twitter users.

Babylon Bee, ISIS and Iran - what a great band of ideological brothers. 👍🏼

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

Babylon Bee violated Twitter's terms of service:
"You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease."

I mean, these are the rules of Twitter - a private company. Babylon Bee wanted to harass a person based on their gender identity, which isn't allowed under Twitter's TOS. Babylon Bee is free to harass that person on their own website.

So does ISIS. So does Iran. So do a lot of Twitter users.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

Babylon Bee violated Twitter's terms of service:
"You may not promote violence against, threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease."

I mean, these are the rules of Twitter - a private company. Babylon Bee wanted to harass a person based on their gender identity, which isn't allowed under Twitter's TOS. Babylon Bee is free to harass that person on their own website.

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Anonymous wrote:If Musk sells any stock, he can break so many at Twitter. He owns them now

What does "break so many at Twitter" mean? Are you talking about employees?

They are talking about Musk engaging in price manipulation. Basically, Musk can threaten to dump his shares and that would cause fortunes among Twitter employees to plummet, unless Twitter does what he demands.

Essentially, Musk is betting that the SEC won't do anything to rein in his price manipulation.

What will Musk demand?

Trump back on Twitter.

It's interesting that RW folks are so cool with implicit and explicit blackmail.

He bought the shares legally. They can turn him down.

Twitter seems to be doing just fine without Trump right now. Even if Musk did dump his shares out of spite, wouldn’t the price go right back up again?

Nope

Why not?

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

Anonymous wrote:Thank heavens. Twitter bans anyone who says a man is a man, but found that a video depicting JK Rowling’s murder doesn’t violate its rules. That’s all one needs to know about the misogynistic deviants running Twitter.

I say complete free speech on Twitter. Any snowflakes who can’t handle the truth can log off.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.

I don’t think that explains the Babylon Bee thing. They were just offended by the satire.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

You already know free speech has limits. Why feign stupidity?

Tell us, oh Wise One - how do you define those limits?

Let me guess: “anything and everything I disagree with”, right?

Actually, the supreme court has been quite clear about those limits over the years. The current policies in place by the vast majority of tech companies grossly exceed the limits defined by the supreme court.

Because tech companies are not the government and have freedom themselves.

There is a very compelling argument to be made that these tech companies are utilities, or at the very least, common carriers. And neither of those are allowed to practice the kind of subjective discrimination in their delivery of services or power that many tech companies currently do with regard to free speech that does not meet the USSC thresholds for obscenity, libel or incitement.

Through their censorship and ideological standards for speech, these lefty tech oligarchs are setting themselves up to have their platforms taken away from their control and being operated as a public utility. Which would be hysterically funny, BTW.

If I send an Op-Ed to the Washington Post or the New York Times, they’re not obligated to publish it in their pages. And no one would argue that my free speech rights have been infringed. What’s the difference?

Freedom of speech only means that the government can’t arrest you for saying something. It doesn’t mean that private companies are required by law to allow you to use their platforms. If it makes good business sense to exclude certain people because of their actions, then private businesses should have the right to do that.

So you also therefore think 7-11 should be able to exclude groups of young black people from their stores because of the actions of flash mobs of other young black people stealing merchandise from other 7-11 stores?

You’d agree with that then, right?

I need popcorn. This is gonna get good! Considering Dorsey’s last tweet, something’s coming down the pike.

Yeah Dorsey has hinted about regretting the decision to boot Trump in a few different ways. But I’m not sure if he has the gumption or ability to do anything about it now.

It’s been 2 years since Trump was banned and Elon Musk had to pay *billions* of dollars for 9%. Clearly a horrible business decision and Twitter is reeling. Even the Twitter haters on this thread agree that Twitter is now so big and powerful that it is basically equivalent to natural monopoly like a utility company.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't all Americans be free speech absolutists?

Agree. Many on the previously liberal left have given up on it though. If you can’t win with arguments, you silence your opposition. Nothing new.

The number of Americans who do not understand free speech is truly astounding. So, maybe, don't post about it if you don't.

Twitter is a PRIVATE PLATFORM. They can regulate whatever they want. And frankly, they don't regulate much. Just absolute lies and misinformation. And that's a good thing.