Anonymous wrote:Tons of kids smoked at school in bathrooms and parking lot at my private in the 90s. It was so prolific. I would think this is a parent-child concern. Talk to your kids about what addiction.

talk *about addiction*

I have five adult kids. Four out of college and on their own. One in college. We have seen a lot through the years. OP, you are getting some terrible advice here. For heavens sake, she was vaping, not snorting coke off of a hooker’s stomach. Yes, there should be consequences. Measured consequences. First, sit down and have a conversation. Explain to her the dangers of vaping. Talk to her like she is a young adult. No exaggerating. No hysterics. Just facts. Think about consequences that make sense. Kids do dumb things sometimes. It’s up to the adults in their lives to remain calm, establish clear boundaries, and impose logical consequences. She also needs to know that this is recoverable. It’s not the end of the world.

Tons of kids smoked at school in bathrooms and parking lot at my private in the 90s. It was so prolific. I would think this is a parent-child concern. Talk to your kids about what addiction.

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Anonymous wrote:And what are you doing about it?

If she has ADHD, perhaps she needs a dose adjustment.

What about the OP’s posts suggests that she has ADHD?

ADHD is associated with increased risk of substance abuse, especially with adolescents. Decades of research supports this. PP said, "If she has ADHD". PP's was a reasonable and relevant post.


Here is one longitudinal study. There are others. https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2003/08/adhd-drugs
"According to the study, those children with the most severe attention problems in childhood were most at risk for alcohol and marijuana problems and cigarette smoking by their teens. Those children with ADHD with other behavior problems, such as defying parents and fighting, were also at risk for illicit drug use, but severity of attention problems was a better predictor for drinking, tobacco, and marijuana outcomes."

Just to point out, the biggest risks are for kids who have UNTREATED ADHD.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for this. the friend was also suspended. He admits he brought the vape.
She does have ADHD and an adjustment to meds might be warranted--thank you.
That said, as someone posted, it's STUPID and careless and I'm just so angry and sad. The school is very strict. If it were cigarettes, they'd suspend, too.
I'm thinking about consequences, including having her visit another school during her suspension.

There would be A LOT of consequences at my house during that suspension period. No screens. No books. No door closed. A room search. Lots and lots of housework and yard work. She'd also be getting a pat down before she heads back to school, and I would be accompanying her to the door of school.

Why no books? I would kill for my kid to actually be bored enough to pick up a book.

My kid would receive the following consequences.

1) Doors come off the hinges in their room
2) They would have to write a paper on the dangers of nicotine
3) They would go to rehab if it's bad
4) Phone is confiscated
5) Laptop for schoolwork only and in a public place with parental supervision
6) Random drug tests
7) Random searches of room/backpack, etc.
8) Car privileges revoked

Wtf?

#insaneparents

Do they have rehab for nicotine for kids?

Seriously, I can see the above backfiring in a big way. Maybe not for all kids, but for a lot, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:First I've heard of a school who gives a crap about vaping, if only they all did, maybe kids would take it more seriously.

100% agree. So many kids and parents at our school complain about vaping in the school bathrooms and nothing pretty much has been done.

But again, it's the same as when I was in HS, no one did anything about the kids smoking cigarettes' behind the school, under the stairs, or at the basketball courts.

That's because schools have bigger fish to fry. I'm not saying vaping is good, but middle and high schools, yes even the "good" ones, are dealing with out of control behaviors and that's what's getting priority right now. Fights, property destruction, and class disruptions are taking up a disproportionate amount of resources. School staff is already stretched thin. OP's daughter must've made no effort to conceal it if she was caught and suspended.

Anonymous wrote:First I've heard of a school who gives a crap about vaping, if only they all did, maybe kids would take it more seriously.

100% agree. So many kids and parents at our school complain about vaping in the school bathrooms and nothing pretty much has been done.

But again, it's the same as when I was in HS, no one did anything about the kids smoking cigarettes' behind the school, under the stairs, or at the basketball courts.

First I've heard of a school who gives a crap about vaping, if only they all did, maybe kids would take it more seriously.

These responses are crazy. Yeah, I'd be upset too but I'd talk to my DD about it. I'd also not let her have a fun suspension, I'd probably take away phone and make a School work schedule or something so the suspension is not just a fun day off of school to sleep in and relax.

^^^ Watch out for crazy troll above replying to everyone's comment. The person must not have teens or lives under a rock!

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to smoke pot in high school. My parents did nothing. He never graduated high school and now lives off his wife with no job. To get off marijuana (you know becuase it’s apparently not addictive) he started smoking cigarettes, to stop smoking cigarettes he started vaping. He still vapes and has two kids and no job.

Do you want my anecdote for successful coke heads or alcoholics, in the financial sense, because I know some of those too.

Literally your brother is an addict. Be glad he didn't choose oxy and the like instead

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Anonymous wrote:How is she purchasing this?

My kid said that at his school there is a kid who sells vapes. He gets them from his older brother. It's a "family business"

There is also another kids who sell weed cartilages and it also a "family business"... according to my kid, this kid doesn't even smoke.

But how does your kid have any money or privileges left? They shouldn't have money to buy vapes.

I see this on here a lot. Do literally no kids of upper middle class backgrounds have jobs anymore?

Anonymous wrote:We live in an upper middle class neighborhood. My son says a lot of the kids in the Football team at his school vape weed.

He says most of the White kids are "pot heads" and/or vape.

The school demographics is 47.42 White, 20.56% Asian, 17.89% Hispanic, 7.12% African-American, and 7.01% of other races.

And thank significance of this is?

Good. Logical consequences. I would be upset. Why is she vaping? She’s a minor. What are you looking for by posting this?

My brother used to smoke pot in high school. My parents did nothing. He never graduated high school and now lives off his wife with no job. To get off marijuana (you know becuase it’s apparently not addictive) he started smoking cigarettes, to stop smoking cigarettes he started vaping. He still vapes and has two kids and no job.