Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 07:58     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:“ The countries that those foreigners are from are responsible for evacuating them.
When you are a guest in another country and something like this happens, you go straight to your country's embassy. Or you stay and fight alongside your hosts. Or you hunker down and hope for the best.
It is the height of arrogance and entitlement for ANYONE who has been living as a guest in a country to go running for the border waving their passport around expecting to be rescued, while the people who live there fight for their lives.”

Where are the embassies of these foreign nationals? Ukraine is busy fighting for their very existence. They do not have time to worry about evacuating able bodied men.


In one article I read a Nigerian student said they contacted their embassy in Kyiv and embassy workers pretty much told them they can’t help so they have to get out the country on their own. The student said they were abandoned by their government.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 07:34     Subject: Re:Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Are the black and brown people outraged about this equally outraged at the horrific evacuation in Afghanistan 6 months ago? Guessing not. Admit it, you're the same and only care about your own. You just live for making white people look bad.


I’m a white person who thinks white people do a good enough job of their own in making us look bad. You are a case in point.

Lots of middle easteners also not being welcomed in other European countries. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-africa-syria-poland-middle-east-230b0cc790820b9bf8883f918fc8e313
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 07:33     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:French media has been reporting several incidents of Indian citizens (mostly graduate students and young professionals) having difficulty crossing the boarder including a few reports of groups chartering buses only to be dropped 15km from the Polish boarder and instructed to walk the rest of the way, and then not to be allowed in. Nigeria is also complaining of similar treatment of their students so they sent representatives from their Polish embassy to the boarder crossing to help.

This is from tvdefrance for which you need a paid subscription to stream and it is also only in French.


That can't be true pp after all it's all Russian propaganda


well, my streaming subscription is basically like xfinity and includes all the channels I would be able to get back home including SEVERAL news channels. Most are reporting about this issue with the Polish boarder. French media is usually very objective and non bias, in particular the 8pm/ 20:00 news which people in France still watch.

DP. But what are those stations basing their reports on? If they are all jumping to be first to report based on a couple of unverified anecdotes, then it is entirely possible their reporting does not accurately reflect what is happening on the ground.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 06:54     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I.got the impression that they were trying to get on a train. That train is for women, children and the elderly
Able bodied men can find another way out.
Like car or leave a week earlier when it was suggested


African women with babies couldn’t get on.

The train is meant for Ukrainians
African women with babies were asked to leave a week before the conflict
The press showed grown men
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 06:10     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:French media has been reporting several incidents of Indian citizens (mostly graduate students and young professionals) having difficulty crossing the boarder including a few reports of groups chartering buses only to be dropped 15km from the Polish boarder and instructed to walk the rest of the way, and then not to be allowed in. Nigeria is also complaining of similar treatment of their students so they sent representatives from their Polish embassy to the boarder crossing to help.

This is from tvdefrance for which you need a paid subscription to stream and it is also only in French.


That can't be true pp after all it's all Russian propaganda


well, my streaming subscription is basically like xfinity and includes all the channels I would be able to get back home including SEVERAL news channels. Most are reporting about this issue with the Polish boarder. French media is usually very objective and non bias, in particular the 8pm/ 20:00 news which people in France still watch.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 06:07     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:I.got the impression that they were trying to get on a train. That train is for women, children and the elderly
Able bodied men can find another way out.
Like car or leave a week earlier when it was suggested


African women with babies couldn’t get on.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 05:00     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
“ The countries that those foreigners are from are responsible for evacuating them.
When you are a guest in another country and something like this happens, you go straight to your country's embassy. Or you stay and fight alongside your hosts. Or you hunker down and hope for the best.
It is the height of arrogance and entitlement for ANYONE who has been living as a guest in a country to go running for the border waving their passport around expecting to be rescued, while the people who live there fight for their lives.”

Where are the embassies of these foreign nationals? Ukraine is busy fighting for their very existence. They do not have time to worry about evacuating able bodied men.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 04:56     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just saw video of how the African and black students are being treated trying to escape .
As an African American screw you Ukraine and Poland.


OP, do you know the legal/passport/visa status of these students? During the Wuhan evacuation, a British woman was told to evacuate but leave her 3-year-old child behind because the child did not have a UK passport.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-51302350


Per your article that was due to a Chinese rule not a UK rule.

“ Under Chinese jurisdiction, only British passport holders who do not hold Chinese nationality are permitted to leave through assisted departure.”
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 03:13     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
I saw this on reddit - Indian students (women) beaten by Ukrainian soldiers at the border. Looks like this went viral in India and media there is blasting Ukraine. India had taken a neutral stance before this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/t2r9ze/ukrainian_forces_beating_up_indian_students_and/
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 00:45     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just saw video of how the African and black students are being treated trying to escape .
As an African American screw you Ukraine and Poland.


Nothing bad to say about Russia, of course.


+2 imbecile troll


Nope. I give no fs about Russia either. -op


You give no fs about the source of the attacks that have caused the need for evacuation in the first place?


I said what I said
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 00:14     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
I.got the impression that they were trying to get on a train. That train is for women, children and the elderly
Able bodied men can find another way out.
Like car or leave a week earlier when it was suggested
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2022 23:59     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Most are students they go because they can get free or low cost high quality education, many are med students.

It's interesting how now it's okay to prioritize " citizens" for some of you.

Ukraine has a long and documented history of racism that doesn't change because Putin is being a jackass.

Any man between the age of 16 and 60 cannot legally leave the country
Those foreign students you posted pictures about earlier were men. They must do their duty and join the army and fight if need be


I do believe it is against the law to firce a non citizen to fight for byiur country. Not to mention all the potential problems that could create.

You'll have to try again to justify this.


I am sure Russian border is open.


The country is at war, men cannot legally leave. They are legal residents, not tourists



This applies only to Ukrainian citizens!


We are looking at WW3 with Putin doubling down on nuke threats.
All you care about is some people getting their free rides?
Have you no honor?
Have you no shame?

I care about people being treated equally.



No you don't. Ukrainians are fighting for their lives. Men cannot leave the country. And here you are whining that Black men living in the Ukraine aren't being let out fast enough.

Ukrainian men! Get your facts straight.

This thread is about the unequal treatment of foreigners trying to evacuate. Take your hate and racist views to a different thread.




The countries that those foreigners are from are responsible for evacuating them.
When you are a guest in another country and something like this happens, you go straight to your country's embassy. Or you stay and fight alongside your hosts. Or you hunker down and hope for the best.
It is the height of arrogance and entitlement for ANYONE who has been living as a guest in a country to go running for the border waving their passport around expecting to be rescued, while the people who live there fight for their lives.


+1,000. It’s disgusting, this attitude that those Ukrainians are expendable; but people who chose to be guests in that country expect the red carpet to be rolled out for them as they exit.

These are the same assholes who vacation in a hostile country, the when things go awry, they can’t understand why Delta Force doesn’t come bust them out.

The entitlement is beyond ugly.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2022 23:56     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most are students they go because they can get free or low cost high quality education, many are med students.

It's interesting how now it's okay to prioritize " citizens" for some of you.

Ukraine has a long and documented history of racism that doesn't change because Putin is being a jackass.

Any man between the age of 16 and 60 cannot legally leave the country
Those foreign students you posted pictures about earlier were men. They must do their duty and join the army and fight if need be


I do believe it is against the law to firce a non citizen to fight for byiur country. Not to mention all the potential problems that could create.

You'll have to try again to justify this.


I am sure Russian border is open.


You are truly an angry bitter racist.

The country is at war, men cannot legally leave. They are legal residents, not tourists



This applies only to Ukrainian citizens!


We are looking at WW3 with Putin doubling down on nuke threats.
All you care about is some people getting their free rides?
Have you no honor?
Have you no shame?

I care about people being treated equally.



You mean, all you care about is getting freebies, free handouts, free rides.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2022 23:52     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most are students they go because they can get free or low cost high quality education, many are med students.

It's interesting how now it's okay to prioritize " citizens" for some of you.

Ukraine has a long and documented history of racism that doesn't change because Putin is being a jackass.

Any man between the age of 16 and 60 cannot legally leave the country
Those foreign students you posted pictures about earlier were men. They must do their duty and join the army and fight if need be


I do believe it is against the law to firce a non citizen to fight for byiur country. Not to mention all the potential problems that could create.

You'll have to try again to justify this.


I am sure Russian border is open.


The country is at war, men cannot legally leave. They are legal residents, not tourists



This applies only to Ukrainian citizens!


We are looking at WW3 with Putin doubling down on nuke threats.
All you care about is some people getting their free rides?
Have you no honor?
Have you no shame?

I care about people being treated equally.



You mean, all you care about is getting freebies, free handouts, free rides.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2022 23:45     Subject: Africans and blacks in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most are students they go because they can get free or low cost high quality education, many are med students.

It's interesting how now it's okay to prioritize " citizens" for some of you.

Ukraine has a long and documented history of racism that doesn't change because Putin is being a jackass.

Any man between the age of 16 and 60 cannot legally leave the country
Those foreign students you posted pictures about earlier were men. They must do their duty and join the army and fight if need be


I do believe it is against the law to firce a non citizen to fight for byiur country. Not to mention all the potential problems that could create.

You'll have to try again to justify this.


I am sure Russian border is open.


The country is at war, men cannot legally leave. They are legal residents, not tourists



This applies only to Ukrainian citizens!


We are looking at WW3 with Putin doubling down on nuke threats.
All you care about is some people getting their free rides?
Have you no honor?
Have you no shame?

I care about people being treated equally.



No you don't. Ukrainians are fighting for their lives. Men cannot leave the country. And here you are whining that Black men living in the Ukraine aren't being let out fast enough.

Ukrainian men! Get your facts straight.

This thread is about the unequal treatment of foreigners trying to evacuate. Take your hate and racist views to a different thread.




The countries that those foreigners are from are responsible for evacuating them.
When you are a guest in another country and something like this happens, you go straight to your country's embassy. Or you stay and fight alongside your hosts. Or you hunker down and hope for the best.
It is the height of arrogance and entitlement for ANYONE who has been living as a guest in a country to go running for the border waving their passport around expecting to be rescued, while the people who live there fight for their lives.