Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 11:46     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
In a test optional world, why is this even a topic?

Shouldn't we be talking about the opposite scenario - high test scores (because testing is now available to everyone and you can prep and do well for the most part) but low GPA (COVID impacted 9th and 10th grades dragging down overall GPA)?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:53     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Just stop. What evidence (besides comments on DCUM) do you have that public schools inflate grades and private schools deflate grades?


Just stop. Are you serious? Let's start with MoCo. In March 2020, the "do no harm" policy required students to earn at least one grade higher than they did the previous quarter. So if you got a B, you got an A. That's grade inflation. How many posters on here with kids at Wilson have said they and all their kids friends now have averages in the high 90s, courtesy of the covid special grading policies. In public schools, you get a full point bump for AP classes. Again, grade inflation. None of that exists at many of the private schools in this area.


Weighted GPAs are not evidence of grade inflation.


There is a lot of jealousy on this board. You would think that a parent who can afford an exclusive private school would be happy with what they have. No. They have to shiX on everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:18     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:
Just stop. What evidence (besides comments on DCUM) do you have that public schools inflate grades and private schools deflate grades?


Just stop. Are you serious? Let's start with MoCo. In March 2020, the "do no harm" policy required students to earn at least one grade higher than they did the previous quarter. So if you got a B, you got an A. That's grade inflation. How many posters on here with kids at Wilson have said they and all their kids friends now have averages in the high 90s, courtesy of the covid special grading policies. In public schools, you get a full point bump for AP classes. Again, grade inflation. None of that exists at many of the private schools in this area.


Weighted GPAs are not evidence of grade inflation.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:07     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Just stop. What evidence (besides comments on DCUM) do you have that public schools inflate grades and private schools deflate grades?


Just stop. Are you serious? Let's start with MoCo. In March 2020, the "do no harm" policy required students to earn at least one grade higher than they did the previous quarter. So if you got a B, you got an A. That's grade inflation. How many posters on here with kids at Wilson have said they and all their kids friends now have averages in the high 90s, courtesy of the covid special grading policies. In public schools, you get a full point bump for AP classes. Again, grade inflation. None of that exists at many of the private schools in this area.


In MCPS you get a full point bump for AP and honors, and honors is basically on-level. I'd say 30-40% of the kids had a 4.4 or above GPA.


And the colleges are well aware of the grading scales so what’s your point? As pps have pointed out, colleges are not comparing private school kids to public school kids. But if it makes you feel better to think that’s why your kids are not getting in, have at it.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 09:49     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
It would be most helpful for you to keep pointing out your kid attended private- so people can be clear your DC has better character and is smarter than any public school students.
Also, please emphasize the fact that you had not even pursued privates, it “just worked out that your DC got invited to or got a scholarship to said private school”

I’d find that helpful.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 09:01     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:
Just stop. What evidence (besides comments on DCUM) do you have that public schools inflate grades and private schools deflate grades?


Just stop. Are you serious? Let's start with MoCo. In March 2020, the "do no harm" policy required students to earn at least one grade higher than they did the previous quarter. So if you got a B, you got an A. That's grade inflation. How many posters on here with kids at Wilson have said they and all their kids friends now have averages in the high 90s, courtesy of the covid special grading policies. In public schools, you get a full point bump for AP classes. Again, grade inflation. None of that exists at many of the private schools in this area.


In MCPS you get a full point bump for AP and honors, and honors is basically on-level. I'd say 30-40% of the kids had a 4.4 or above GPA.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 07:19     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:"The point of college is to get an education. Cheating does absolutely zero to assist with that."

What part of "they are the smart kids who get 4s and 5s on the actual AP exams" did you not bother to read???


What does being able to manage an AP exam have to do with the downsides of cheating? The two things are un related.

If you are just copying the work from someone else.......they are the ones that have the info in their brain and have an education. The copycat has bubkis....started with an empty brain and ended with an empty brain.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 07:12     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. OP kid didn’t get into the school they wanted and is blaming the kids who work harder.


I'm not OP.
But the thing is, these kids don't necessarily "work harder." Sure, some might work harder. Some of them cheat. Some of them just have easier teachers.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 22:22     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Let me guess. OP kid didn’t get into the school they wanted and is blaming the kids who work harder.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 22:16     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:4 years of high grades in hard classes are more impressive than prepping for a 4 hour test that you can take multiple times and submit your top scores. Most schools are going to be moving away form standardized tests sooner than later.


+1

And the sooner the better.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 22:08     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Low stat students got into good schools before test optional as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 22:03     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
"The point of college is to get an education. Cheating does absolutely zero to assist with that."

What part of "they are the smart kids who get 4s and 5s on the actual AP exams" did you not bother to read???
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 19:43     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Anonymous wrote:Ok, can someone please explain how this makes any sense?

I know plenty of kids in this admissions cycle who have low (think, 1100) SATs but have high GPAs (4.0 range) from big public schools that grade inflate. These kids are going test optional and are getting into colleges that would normally be out of reach when SATs were required. This year, they get to hide their low SAT from the colleges.

On the other hand, I know plenty of kids at private schools that grade-deflate but who have strong grades (taking that grade deflation into account, say 3.8) and sky high SATs who are being deferred and rejected from safeties. In the past, the high SATs balanced out the grade deflation, but this year it seems meaningless because schools are filling spots with kids who didn't show an SAT.

This system is a joke but it is also very damaging. There under qualified kids who are making tic toc videos mocking the system. On the other hand, you have high achieving students who've worked their a$# off and who are getting shut out. Makes no sense.


Sorry - whenever a poster says, "I know plenty of people who..." I know they're just BS-ing. You don't know "plenty" of kids' GPAs and test scores at various schools, public and private. You just don't. And you look like an a$$ claiming otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 19:24     Subject: Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
I have DCs at private and public and there is grade inflation in public. Our public school has nothing less than Honors with a .5 bump from 9th grade on, then AP and DE with the 1.0 bump for the majority of the students. Our private has honors and non-honors from 9th grade on, and a lot fewer kids take APs.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 18:33     Subject: Re:Kids who bombed the SAT - getting good college results
Just stop. What evidence (besides comments on DCUM) do you have that public schools inflate grades and private schools deflate grades?


Just stop. Are you serious? Let's start with MoCo. In March 2020, the "do no harm" policy required students to earn at least one grade higher than they did the previous quarter. So if you got a B, you got an A. That's grade inflation. How many posters on here with kids at Wilson have said they and all their kids friends now have averages in the high 90s, courtesy of the covid special grading policies. In public schools, you get a full point bump for AP classes. Again, grade inflation. None of that exists at many of the private schools in this area.