Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:41     Subject: Re:Wake up local Boards of Education

Alison Collins was almost cartoonishly bad (unapologetically racist, greedy, corrupt) and yet here is the progressive take:

Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:38     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also an acknowledgement of the Anti-Asian racism that has come to dominate progressive Democrat politics. One of those ousted, Alison Collins called merit-based admissions racist (https://www.newsweek.com/school-called-racist-san-francisco-1566895). This is exactly what is being played out in the DMV area at the behest of the progressives and to the detriment of Asian-Americans.

The days of the Democrats taking Asian votes for granted are over.


I agree - but Asians are going to need to start speaking out about this. Not to mention, voting for Republicans.


This Asian woman right here will NEVER vote for another Democrat. I’m done. Used to be a regular Democrat voter, but it is clear that they no longer want my vote. Will find other options.


Makes sense.

I am a Democratic white voter who doesn’t feel like I have a political home these days. I can’t vote for Trump Republicans and their traitorous insurrection, but the Democrats have lost me with their school closures, anti-Asian racism, how they’ve handled some trans issues, destruction of education, and anti-Semitism.

I am not sure exactly what to do. If I had been in VA for the last governor election I probably wouldn’t have voted at all.


I’m the PP. I would have voted for Youngkin in a heartbeat and I think he’s doing a good job.

I’m interested in DeSantis and I hope the Republican put forth a strong Republican candidate in the next presidential election. I think he/she would win by a landslide.



I totally don't get any of those arguments the "I'm a Democrat but... " PP made above.
- The schools aren't closed
- How are Democrats responsible for anti-Asian racism? Were they the ones going around saying "kng flu?"
- There were definitely some bad missteps in how the Loudon trans case was handled but there was a lot of right wing dishonesty too. School board properly referred it to the police and was legally prohibited from disclosing any details but that was weaponized against them by the right wing.
- How is the left destroying education and what has the right wing proposed that's better? The right wing hates universities, attacked K-12 standards, wants to completely gut public school education and funnel all of the money into privately run Christian schools.
- How is the left anti-Semitic? By doing things like criticizing Netanyahu's policies and criticizing illegal Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory? Sorry but that's that's policy debate, not anti-Semitism.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:34     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.


Why can’t anyone just be honest about all this? These dei policies are generally poorly designed. When you’re ending merit based admission, which is done by race neutral entrance exams to rigorous schools, on the premise that it’s unfair because it’s too hard for some students to get in, you’re on the losing side of an argument. Lowering all boats is not good policy. Asian parents who value education and who showed up in droves clearly demonstrate that “woke” education is not going over well.

Also, the amount of millions wasted on diversity consultants, both in schools and the workplace, who really don’t do much other than lecture on in power point is a racket. It is. It’s a feel good waste of money for organizations and lines the pockets of people smart enough to understand that if they strike while the iron is hot, with a nationwide racial reckoning, they can get a chunk of change.

I’m a liberal who now hopes moderate Republicans win in November. I just want my kids to get the best education, rather than money be diverted for lesser priorities, that cost millions of dollars, but look good on Twitter, like remaining schools. I don’t want gifted and talented or ap classes to end. Even if my kid can’t get in. I want the kids who can pass the tests and get the actual non-inflated grades to be the engineers who build our rockets and schools.


+1 million

Though I will no longer call myself a ‘liberal’. The liberals have gone crazy. And I want no part of that.


It’s crazy in the sense that even talking about or remotely questioning the prudence of certain dei efforts can result in scandal. As if it’s dangerous to question the prevailing narrative, which itself is based on a lot of post-modernist theory, which I guess the public has now accepted as fact.

I really think the pushback in November will be strong. I can’t tell if Republicans are just that much better in their messaging, and I’m naive and impressionable liberal-cum conservative, or if the last few years really have been just a flurry of endless grievance culture, complaints and whining, lowering of standards for testing and entrance to rigorous schools for the greater good, and a crime wave partially attributed to liberal “criminal justice policies” that aim to bridge the racial gap in incarceration rates, but seem to entail just letting violent criminals out of jail sooner (thanks youth rehab act) or allowing teens to car Jack with impunity and blaming it all on systemic racism. It’s kind of nuts. It’s now edgy to ask for more policing in your community. I’m over it.


Republicans are far better at messaging, but democrats think they have a mandate to right perceived injustices. Republicans are going to clean sweep in 2022
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:32     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.


Why can’t anyone just be honest about all this? These dei policies are generally poorly designed. When you’re ending merit based admission, which is done by race neutral entrance exams to rigorous schools, on the premise that it’s unfair because it’s too hard for some students to get in, you’re on the losing side of an argument. Lowering all boats is not good policy. Asian parents who value education and who showed up in droves clearly demonstrate that “woke” education is not going over well.

Also, the amount of millions wasted on diversity consultants, both in schools and the workplace, who really don’t do much other than lecture on in power point is a racket. It is. It’s a feel good waste of money for organizations and lines the pockets of people smart enough to understand that if they strike while the iron is hot, with a nationwide racial reckoning, they can get a chunk of change.

I’m a liberal who now hopes moderate Republicans win in November. I just want my kids to get the best education, rather than money be diverted for lesser priorities, that cost millions of dollars, but look good on Twitter, like remaining schools. I don’t want gifted and talented or ap classes to end. Even if my kid can’t get in. I want the kids who can pass the tests and get the actual non-inflated grades to be the engineers who build our rockets and schools.


+1 million

Though I will no longer call myself a ‘liberal’. The liberals have gone crazy. And I want no part of that.


I voted for Kucinich at least once, if not twice in a presidential primary, and if I am not even sure if I am a Democrat anymore - I think there’s a major problem.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:30     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.


Why can’t anyone just be honest about all this? These dei policies are generally poorly designed. When you’re ending merit based admission, which is done by race neutral entrance exams to rigorous schools, on the premise that it’s unfair because it’s too hard for some students to get in, you’re on the losing side of an argument. Lowering all boats is not good policy. Asian parents who value education and who showed up in droves clearly demonstrate that “woke” education is not going over well.

Also, the amount of millions wasted on diversity consultants, both in schools and the workplace, who really don’t do much other than lecture on in power point is a racket. It is. It’s a feel good waste of money for organizations and lines the pockets of people smart enough to understand that if they strike while the iron is hot, with a nationwide racial reckoning, they can get a chunk of change.

I’m a liberal who now hopes moderate Republicans win in November. I just want my kids to get the best education, rather than money be diverted for lesser priorities, that cost millions of dollars, but look good on Twitter, like remaining schools. I don’t want gifted and talented or ap classes to end. Even if my kid can’t get in. I want the kids who can pass the tests and get the actual non-inflated grades to be the engineers who build our rockets and schools.


+1 million

Though I will no longer call myself a ‘liberal’. The liberals have gone crazy. And I want no part of that.


It’s crazy in the sense that even talking about or remotely questioning the prudence of certain dei efforts can result in scandal. As if it’s dangerous to question the prevailing narrative, which itself is based on a lot of post-modernist theory, which I guess the public has now accepted as fact.

I really think the pushback in November will be strong. I can’t tell if Republicans are just that much better in their messaging, and I’m naive and impressionable liberal-cum conservative, or if the last few years really have been just a flurry of endless grievance culture, complaints and whining, lowering of standards for testing and entrance to rigorous schools for the greater good, and a crime wave partially attributed to liberal “criminal justice policies” that aim to bridge the racial gap in incarceration rates, but seem to entail just letting violent criminals out of jail sooner (thanks youth rehab act) or allowing teens to car Jack with impunity and blaming it all on systemic racism. It’s kind of nuts. It’s now edgy to ask for more policing in your community. I’m over it.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:20     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.


Why can’t anyone just be honest about all this? These dei policies are generally poorly designed. When you’re ending merit based admission, which is done by race neutral entrance exams to rigorous schools, on the premise that it’s unfair because it’s too hard for some students to get in, you’re on the losing side of an argument. Lowering all boats is not good policy. Asian parents who value education and who showed up in droves clearly demonstrate that “woke” education is not going over well.

Also, the amount of millions wasted on diversity consultants, both in schools and the workplace, who really don’t do much other than lecture on in power point is a racket. It is. It’s a feel good waste of money for organizations and lines the pockets of people smart enough to understand that if they strike while the iron is hot, with a nationwide racial reckoning, they can get a chunk of change.

I’m a liberal who now hopes moderate Republicans win in November. I just want my kids to get the best education, rather than money be diverted for lesser priorities, that cost millions of dollars, but look good on Twitter, like remaining schools. I don’t want gifted and talented or ap classes to end. Even if my kid can’t get in. I want the kids who can pass the tests and get the actual non-inflated grades to be the engineers who build our rockets and schools.


+1 million

Though I will no longer call myself a ‘liberal’. The liberals have gone crazy. And I want no part of that.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:19     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is also an acknowledgement of the Anti-Asian racism that has come to dominate progressive Democrat politics. One of those ousted, Alison Collins called merit-based admissions racist (https://www.newsweek.com/school-called-racist-san-francisco-1566895). This is exactly what is being played out in the DMV area at the behest of the progressives and to the detriment of Asian-Americans.

The days of the Democrats taking Asian votes for granted are over.


I agree - but Asians are going to need to start speaking out about this. Not to mention, voting for Republicans.


This Asian woman right here will NEVER vote for another Democrat. I’m done. Used to be a regular Democrat voter, but it is clear that they no longer want my vote. Will find other options.


Makes sense.

I am a Democratic white voter who doesn’t feel like I have a political home these days. I can’t vote for Trump Republicans and their traitorous insurrection, but the Democrats have lost me with their school closures, anti-Asian racism, how they’ve handled some trans issues, destruction of education, and anti-Semitism.

I am not sure exactly what to do. If I had been in VA for the last governor election I probably wouldn’t have voted at all.


I’m the PP. I would have voted for Youngkin in a heartbeat and I think he’s doing a good job.

I’m interested in DeSantis and I hope the Republican put forth a strong Republican candidate in the next presidential election. I think he/she would win by a landslide.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:18     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.


Why can’t anyone just be honest about all this? These dei policies are generally poorly designed. When you’re ending merit based admission, which is done by race neutral entrance exams to rigorous schools, on the premise that it’s unfair because it’s too hard for some students to get in, you’re on the losing side of an argument. Lowering all boats is not good policy. Asian parents who value education and who showed up in droves clearly demonstrate that “woke” education is not going over well.

Also, the amount of millions wasted on diversity consultants, both in schools and the workplace, who really don’t do much other than lecture on in power point is a racket. It is. It’s a feel good waste of money for organizations and lines the pockets of people smart enough to understand that if they strike while the iron is hot, with a nationwide racial reckoning, they can get a chunk of change.

I’m a liberal who now hopes moderate Republicans win in November. I just want my kids to get the best education, rather than money be diverted for lesser priorities, that cost millions of dollars, but look good on Twitter, like remaining schools. I don’t want gifted and talented or ap classes to end. Even if my kid can’t get in. I want the kids who can pass the tests and get the actual non-inflated grades to be the engineers who build our rockets and schools.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:17     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.


What’s your take?


For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.


And all of that happened while the schools were closed.


Most of this can absolutely be extrapolated to FCPS.

- Changed the names of several schools at up to $1 million dollars cost PER school, because the names were too racist

-Got rid of merit-based, race blind entry for the nationally known TJ high school in order to decrease the amount of Asians being admitted

-Spent $24000 dollars for a 45 min. Zoom call by Ibram Kendi

-One of the last districts to return to in person schooling and during virtual they had decreased the number of school days by 25% for the year.

-Lowered the pass grade for standardized testing and still had record number of fails

-Had no real return to in person school plans, they were too busy with pet projects. They had to have their hand forced just to get kids back in school 2 days a week and the State legislature had to pass a new law to require in person learning for this school year or they would have happily sat on their hands about it.

All while schools were basically closed.


Same with MCPS!

My MS kid rarely gets books assigned in English class, but the school was able to purchase Stamped by Kendi to teach the kids. They got rid of SROs. The 50% rule. Restorative Justice. It’s a mess.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:15     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

I don't even think the racism is the worst part of her tweets. It is that she is mocking the very idea of "getting ahead".

The view of education that this reveals is deeply problematic and un-American. This country is built on the idea of progress.

If we are at a stage where so-called progressives think that doing well in school is a sign that you are pandering to white supremacy, then these people need to be removed from every education Board in the country.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:15     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Wow.

Chinese voters were also upset by tweets by Alison Collins, one of the recalled school board members, that were unearthed during the campaign. Ms. Collins said Asian Americans used “white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.’” She went on to compare Asian Americans to slaves who had the advantage of working inside a slave owner’s home instead of doing more grueling labor in the fields, using asterisks to mask an anti-Black racial slur. The tweets reinforced a sentiment among many Chinese voters of being taken for granted, underrepresented and insulted, people involved in the recall campaign said.


Those Tweets were not found during the recall campaign. They were part of what triggered the recall.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 10:02     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.


The progressive mayor supported the recall effort. This was more a case of democrats and progressives ousting the lunatic fringe.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 09:51     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Wow.

Chinese voters were also upset by tweets by Alison Collins, one of the recalled school board members, that were unearthed during the campaign. Ms. Collins said Asian Americans used “white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.’” She went on to compare Asian Americans to slaves who had the advantage of working inside a slave owner’s home instead of doing more grueling labor in the fields, using asterisks to mask an anti-Black racial slur. The tweets reinforced a sentiment among many Chinese voters of being taken for granted, underrepresented and insulted, people involved in the recall campaign said.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 09:44     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

Anonymous wrote:How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html


Good for them. I’m not sure why the progressive position is that they should just accept racism from school board members, but it’s not right.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 08:21     Subject: Wake up local Boards of Education

How Asian Americans Fueled the San Francisco Recall

"The landslide vote to remove three school board members cut across ethnicities and income levels. But Chinese American voters and volunteers were crucial to victory, organizers say."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/san-francisco-school-board-parents.html