Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 18:07     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The questions at the link on page 1 in this thread are not a true reflection of the content the SEL screener focuses on. Below is another sample of the kind of information our kids are required to provide. The demographics questions should be of concern to most parents and students — progressive, or not:

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/English-6-12.pdf


The demographic question in the survey is not particularly worrisome. It gives the school information if some of their worry might be directly related to how a student identifies.

Why does it worry ,you?


Wait. This is the DC public school screener survey. This question is not on the Fairfax county survey. I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong but it's not on the sample and I asked my 10th grader and he said no they did not ask.



The FCPS link is just a sample with only 18 questions out of the many more asked during the entire school year. There must be a reason why FCPS omitted the demographics section on the sample provided to parents.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 17:47     Subject: Re:SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/student-tests-and-assessments/student-assessment-details/social-emotional-screener/grades-3-12

Here is a link to the questions that were asked.


If you are going to make it this hokey, at least ask "How likely are you to become a school shooter?"
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 16:57     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:^ Let's assume a hack. How on earth would answers to questions about if you have too much homework or if you feel worried about something harm your child if it got out? You are WAY overestimating the impact of this info.

FZCPS has way way more sensitive information about your children, which means do not ask for IEPs, counseling, discipline, anything, if a hack is your big concern.

And let's talk about this conspiratorial data mining. What exactly would Panorama do with this information if they were dumb enough to violate their contract and the law?

Think clearly people, rationally.


Sound like you've never held a security clearance.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 16:14     Subject: SEL screener survey

^ Let's assume a hack. How on earth would answers to questions about if you have too much homework or if you feel worried about something harm your child if it got out? You are WAY overestimating the impact of this info.

FZCPS has way way more sensitive information about your children, which means do not ask for IEPs, counseling, discipline, anything, if a hack is your big concern.

And let's talk about this conspiratorial data mining. What exactly would Panorama do with this information if they were dumb enough to violate their contract and the law?

Think clearly people, rationally.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 16:10     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.



There have access because they are the ones who do the analysis of the data. It's a little bit on the conspiratorial side to think that they would break the laws and their contracts to do anything with the data.
This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false.

"FCPS has contracted with Panorama Education, Inc., an established and reputable educational research company used by multiple school divisions in the U.S. to conduct this screener. While FCPS shares student data directly with Panorama Education, no other parties have access to the data. Student data will be kept confidential and used only for FCPS’ educational purposes. Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including FERPA and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data."

Why did FCPS send out that response? Because the crazy right wing campaigning was already beginning:

"This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false."

I'm just tired of the lies and the misdirection from people. Let's deal with reality not made up issues. We have plenty of real issues without creating them out of thin air

Are you a FCPS employee or Panorama stockholder of some sort? If not, you should be aware that this issue is not new and not limited to FCPS. It is only now that parents who entrusted the public school systems across the country have begun to realize the extent to which our kids are being utilized as social pawns. These are just some examples:

1. https://www.reflector.com/news/local/parents-raise-concerns-about-school-district-surveys/article_f2a06cb0-9d92-5877-a5e8-1122f1425726.html
2.
3. https://www.thepilot.com/news/school-survey-platform-on-hold-after-political-debate/article_44785560-ce13-11eb-8f48-276b0902f0d2.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share


These articles are not examples of anything except that parents in other districts are just as gullible and paranoid as FCPS parents. There is zero evidence that the data is used for anything nefarious. It's just more tinfoil hat stuff.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 16:02     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.



There have access because they are the ones who do the analysis of the data. It's a little bit on the conspiratorial side to think that they would break the laws and their contracts to do anything with the data.
This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false.

"FCPS has contracted with Panorama Education, Inc., an established and reputable educational research company used by multiple school divisions in the U.S. to conduct this screener. While FCPS shares student data directly with Panorama Education, no other parties have access to the data. Student data will be kept confidential and used only for FCPS’ educational purposes. Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including FERPA and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data."

Why did FCPS send out that response? Because the crazy right wing campaigning was already beginning:

"This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false."

I'm just tired of the lies and the misdirection from people. Let's deal with reality not made up issues. We have plenty of real issues without creating them out of thin air


Fcpa has been hacked before and it's 9bly a matter of time before they are again.

I give them as little data as possible.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 12:17     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.



There have access because they are the ones who do the analysis of the data. It's a little bit on the conspiratorial side to think that they would break the laws and their contracts to do anything with the data.
This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false.

"FCPS has contracted with Panorama Education, Inc., an established and reputable educational research company used by multiple school divisions in the U.S. to conduct this screener. While FCPS shares student data directly with Panorama Education, no other parties have access to the data. Student data will be kept confidential and used only for FCPS’ educational purposes. Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including FERPA and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data."

Why did FCPS send out that response? Because the crazy right wing campaigning was already beginning:

"This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false."

I'm just tired of the lies and the misdirection from people. Let's deal with reality not made up issues. We have plenty of real issues without creating them out of thin air

Are you a FCPS employee or Panorama stockholder of some sort? If not, you should be aware that this issue is not new and not limited to FCPS. It is only now that parents who entrusted the public school systems across the country have begun to realize the extent to which our kids are being utilized as social pawns. These are just some examples:

1. https://www.reflector.com/news/local/parents-raise-concerns-about-school-district-surveys/article_f2a06cb0-9d92-5877-a5e8-1122f1425726.html
2.
3. https://www.thepilot.com/news/school-survey-platform-on-hold-after-political-debate/article_44785560-ce13-11eb-8f48-276b0902f0d2.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 11:31     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The questions at the link on page 1 in this thread are not a true reflection of the content the SEL screener focuses on. Below is another sample of the kind of information our kids are required to provide. The demographics questions should be of concern to most parents and students — progressive, or not:

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/English-6-12.pdf


The demographic question in the survey is not particularly worrisome. It gives the school information if some of their worry might be directly related to how a student identifies.

Why does it worry ,you?


Wait. This is the DC public school screener survey. This question is not on the Fairfax county survey. I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong but it's not on the sample and I asked my 10th grader and he said no they did not ask.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 11:31     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The questions at the link on page 1 in this thread are not a true reflection of the content the SEL screener focuses on. Below is another sample of the kind of information our kids are required to provide. The demographics questions should be of concern to most parents and students — progressive, or not:

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/English-6-12.pdf


The demographic question in the survey is not particularly worrisome. It gives the school information if some of their worry might be directly related to how a student identifies.

Why does it worry ,you?


Wait. This is the DC public school screener survey. This question is not on the Fairfax county survey. I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong but it's not on the sample and I asked my 10th grader and he said no they did not ask.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 11:30     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:The questions at the link on page 1 in this thread are not a true reflection of the content the SEL screener focuses on. Below is another sample of the kind of information our kids are required to provide. The demographics questions should be of concern to most parents and students — progressive, or not:

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/English-6-12.pdf


The demographic question in the survey is not particularly worrisome. It gives the school information if some of their worry might be directly related to how a student identifies.

Why does it worry ,you?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 11:27     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.



There have access because they are the ones who do the analysis of the data. It's a little bit on the conspiratorial side to think that they would break the laws and their contracts to do anything with the data.
This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false.

"FCPS has contracted with Panorama Education, Inc., an established and reputable educational research company used by multiple school divisions in the U.S. to conduct this screener. While FCPS shares student data directly with Panorama Education, no other parties have access to the data. Student data will be kept confidential and used only for FCPS’ educational purposes. Panorama Education complies with all applicable federal laws, including FERPA and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data."

Why did FCPS send out that response? Because the crazy right wing campaigning was already beginning:

"This week, media implied that FCPS student data collected through a screener meant to assess the social and emotional welfare of our students could be shared with organizations such as Facebook. We would like to reassure our community that any suggestion of this kind is false."

I'm just tired of the lies and the misdirection from people. Let's deal with reality not made up issues. We have plenty of real issues without creating them out of thin air
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 11:20     Subject: SEL screener survey

The questions at the link on page 1 in this thread are not a true reflection of the content the SEL screener focuses on. Below is another sample of the kind of information our kids are required to provide. The demographics questions should be of concern to most parents and students — progressive, or not:

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/English-6-12.pdf
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 10:00     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.

+1

Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 09:47     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Panorama was granted FERPA by fcps. That should never have happened. Panorama is not a public school and should not have access to such sensitive student information.

Panorama is also exempt from FOIA oversight.

Anonymous
Post 02/12/2022 08:55     Subject: SEL screener survey

Anonymous wrote:If you feel strongly, opt out, but keep in mind some of the conspiracy here. There is no data meaning of your kids. The "connection," to Facebook is that that evil twat Zuckerberg is an investor. That's all. Most of this controversy over the data and FB is more crazy right-wing anti-CRT astroturfing campaigns.

I am not dismissing individual parents and their concerns with the questions, but don't let the paranoid conspiracies drive the discussion.

Panorama has signed a legally binding contract with FCPS that specifies how the data will be collected, stored, and used," said a FCPS spokesperson. "The data will be used only for the purposes of serving FCPS and only for education purposes. In addition, Panorama complies with all applicable federal laws, such as the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment (PPRA), as well as state and local regulations concerning student data.”


Thank you. I can’t believe how quickly people will believe the craziest things the anti-FCPS parents will say.