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Anonymous wrote:The international sport is more globalized than the cold war warriors can image, which is probably why they hate it.

Take Lang Ping for example. Played for China Volleyball team in the 1980s. In 2000s she became the head coach of US national team and won a silver medal in 2008 Olympics. Then she returned to China and coached the national team to win a gold medal in 2016 Olympics.

Hopefully the warriors don't wet themselves over this.

If it’s internationalized when there is no need to play for China. But we know that is not the reason she is doing this. She’s determined she can make more money feeding off the good graces of the Chinese government. She should just be honest about her purposes and stop pretending she lives by a perceived western morality. If she did she wouldn’t tell news organizations she won’t answer questions about China in that way.

LMAO. There’s nothing more western than greed! She owes neither you nor anyone else her reason for her decision. Why do you care about her life so much?

Anonymous wrote:The international sport is more globalized than the cold war warriors can image, which is probably why they hate it.

Take Lang Ping for example. Played for China Volleyball team in the 1980s. In 2000s she became the head coach of US national team and won a silver medal in 2008 Olympics. Then she returned to China and coached the national team to win a gold medal in 2016 Olympics.

Hopefully the warriors don't wet themselves over this.

If it’s internationalized when there is no need to play for China. But we know that is not the reason she is doing this. She’s determined she can make more money feeding off the good graces of the Chinese government. She should just be honest about her purposes and stop pretending she lives by a perceived western morality. If she did she wouldn’t tell news organizations she won’t answer questions about China in that way.

The international sport is more globalized than the cold war warriors can image, which is probably why they hate it.

Take Lang Ping for example. Played for China Volleyball team in the 1980s. In 2000s she became the head coach of US national team and won a silver medal in 2008 Olympics. Then she returned to China and coached the national team to win a gold medal in 2016 Olympics.

Hopefully the warriors don't wet themselves over this.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

There are two reasons to be more upset about Elaine Gu.

1. It's China, our geopolitical foe and gross abuser of human rights, masters of propaganda. They are not some two-bit corrupt country with little impact on the rest on the world.

2. Her talent and star power make her propaganda use by the Chinese government a big, big deal, and they're using it effectively. They brought Peng Shuai out from wherever they'd hidden her and put her in the stands to watch Gu win the gold medal yesterday. It's f*ucking disgusting.

What if she actually likes China more? What if she feels no connection to the US? We see entire threads of people threatening to leave all the time here. She owes no one an excuse for her decision either.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole thing is a calculated and cynical grab for money. Her family is connected in the CCP and obviously is part of that world that straddles the two countries taking advantage of the US to maintain party power in China. The whole thing is a facade just like her speaking out for BLM and against Asian hate in the US.

Do you say this stuff out loud to people at cocktail parties and stuff? Do you ever wonder why they edge away afterwards?

Cocktail parties? Are you the CCP poster from upthrrad?

Anonymous wrote:The whole thing is a calculated and cynical grab for money. Her family is connected in the CCP and obviously is part of that world that straddles the two countries taking advantage of the US to maintain party power in China. The whole thing is a facade just like her speaking out for BLM and against Asian hate in the US.

Do you say this stuff out loud to people at cocktail parties and stuff? Do you ever wonder why they edge away afterwards?

The whole thing is a calculated and cynical grab for money. Her family is connected in the CCP and obviously is part of that world that straddles the two countries taking advantage of the US to maintain party power in China. The whole thing is a facade just like her speaking out for BLM and against Asian hate in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

There are two reasons to be more upset about Elaine Gu.

1. It's China, our geopolitical foe and gross abuser of human rights, masters of propaganda. They are not some two-bit corrupt country with little impact on the rest on the world.

2. Her talent and star power make her propaganda use by the Chinese government a big, big deal, and they're using it effectively. They brought Peng Shuai out from wherever they'd hidden her and put her in the stands to watch Gu win the gold medal yesterday. It's f*ucking disgusting.

Sore grapes.

It's a big deal to whom? It's only making headlines because of the outrage in this country at her choice to prioritize her Chinese citizenship over her American one. If people just saw her as a beautiful, talented sportsperson who made a decision, which may well be for financial reasons, then it's really not a big deal. You don't need to see it as a rejection of American values.

Sour grapes are much more disgusting than a talented teenage.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

There are two reasons to be more upset about Elaine Gu.

1. It's China, our geopolitical foe and gross abuser of human rights, masters of propaganda. They are not some two-bit corrupt country with little impact on the rest on the world.

2. Her talent and star power make her propaganda use by the Chinese government a big, big deal, and they're using it effectively. They brought Peng Shuai out from wherever they'd hidden her and put her in the stands to watch Gu win the gold medal yesterday. It's f*ucking disgusting.

Sore grapes.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

There are two reasons to be more upset about Elaine Gu.

1. It's China, our geopolitical foe and gross abuser of human rights, masters of propaganda. They are not some two-bit corrupt country with little impact on the rest on the world.

2. Her talent and star power make her propaganda use by the Chinese government a big, big deal, and they're using it effectively. They brought Peng Shuai out from wherever they'd hidden her and put her in the stands to watch Gu win the gold medal yesterday. It's f*ucking disgusting.

Eileen Gu is raised by her Chinese single mother. And just as she was born American, she is born Chinese. She started to ski because of her Chinese mother who loves skiing. Her mother drove her around and paid for all of her training both in US and in CHINA! She goes to China every single year, she speaks, reads and writes in Chinese. Of course she got more influence from Chinese culture and she is free to represent China! And it’s inspiring that she wants to introduce freestyle skiing to Girls in China. What an excellent young girl!

And now, look at you guys souring about a hard working girl got her years of efforts paid off. How pathetic!

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

I don’t think the difference is the talent. I am happy to cheer for athletes no matter what country they represent. I think the irritation here is the lack of transparency about her citizenship status. I don’t think the other athletes have dodged those questions like Gu has.

The original post of this thread suggests otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.

I don’t think the difference is the talent. I am happy to cheer for athletes no matter what country they represent. I think the irritation here is the lack of transparency about her citizenship status. I don’t think the other athletes have dodged those questions like Gu has.

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Anonymous wrote:Zhu would not have made team USA. This happens all the time and is a non issue. We have plenty of athletes that won gold for the USA but grew up and trained somewhere else.

Gu is different. She is a superstar, best in the world at what she does. When she made the china decision she was already the best and firmly #1 on team USA with a guaranteed spot which makes the China choice a mystery (I’ve heard her explanation but something seems off). Now she was also 15 years old and did what her mom told her, you absolutely can’t blame her as the mom is a known tiger mom and I’m sure it was the moms choice.

It's no mystery at all. A female snowboarder who wins multiple golds for the US will get some endorsements, but nothing spectacular. A female snowboarder who was raised in the US, but decided to compete for China, who had Chinese heritage, and wins multiple golds? The best china has ever done in the winter olympics is 7th in medal count, and they're usually around 12-15. The most golds they've ever won is 5, and she may will 3 all by herself. She is absolutely going to clean up in endorsements, modeling contracts, etc.

She has the chance to set herself up with generational wealth by doing this.

This. All you people who are so shocked that Gu gave up American endorsement money are naive.

Also, it’s unclear exactly what deal she cut with China, she may have even retained her US citizenship.

Athletes should do everything they can to cash in while they can. Their earnings window is painfully short and god knows none of you faux outragers are going to step up and pay her rent ten years from now. Nope, you’ll be calling her washed up, if you remember her at all.

She is already a successful model. She is all super smart (SAT 1580) and is attending Stanford. She will never have trouble paying her rent.

There's a big difference in never having trouble paying the rent and the millions and millions of dollars she'll make from Chinese endorsements.

I made a mistake earlier - she is a freestyle skier, not a snowboarder.

What I find hypocritical is that no one gets upset when it is some less talented athlete who makes this decision, and competes for a foreign nation. But when someone who is talented and a gold medal threat (and winner) does, she's reviled.