Anonymous
01/02/2022 16:38
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids are half-White and half Indian. Can’t we just say white in applications?
I don’t understand.
Are you under some delusion they would fact discrimination? If anything, Asians are over-represented at competitive colleges and universities.
Why does it matter if one group is over represented in institutions that deal in academic smarts? Black people are over represented in the NBA because the NBA gets to pick top talent. Do you complain about that?
Asian Americans have to score higher in every measure compared to other groups because those institutions look at race. The NBA doesn't look at race. If you want people to be race-blind, then you cannot expect institutions to not be race-blind.
It matters because you assume there is some rigid set of criteria that universities must apply when what they are really doing is making learning communities. This is largely a subjective exercise, and that’s valid. It’s not like the NBA at all. What an idiotic comparison. Like so idiotic that if this is how you and your family think, it’s no wonder you were rejected.
If these institutions want diverse learning communities, then why do they only select those with top scores in the respective groups?
Are you telling me that they want a C student with a 980 SAT score who happens to be Asian American and went to a poor school for diversity sake?
Those types of schools are very concerned about the rank and scores, which is why they only want students who score very high. There aren't too many high scoring students in a particular group, so they have to make do with what is available.
Please understand that while YOU consider really amazing kids with SAT scores lower than your child "making do," the universities in question do not. They PREFER that child over yours, which is what stings, I understand.
They have multiple criteria, and you do not. That does not make them wrong.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 13:39
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids are half-White and half Indian. Can’t we just say white in applications?
I don’t understand.
Are you under some delusion they would fact discrimination? If anything, Asians are over-represented at competitive colleges and universities.
Why does it matter if one group is over represented in institutions that deal in academic smarts? Black people are over represented in the NBA because the NBA gets to pick top talent. Do you complain about that?
Asian Americans have to score higher in every measure compared to other groups because those institutions look at race. The NBA doesn't look at race. If you want people to be race-blind, then you cannot expect institutions to not be race-blind.
It matters because you assume there is some rigid set of criteria that universities must apply when what they are really doing is making learning communities. This is largely a subjective exercise, and that’s valid. It’s not like the NBA at all. What an idiotic comparison. Like so idiotic that if this is how you and your family think, it’s no wonder you were rejected.
If these institutions want diverse learning communities, then why do they only select those with top scores in the respective groups?
Are you telling me that they want a C student with a 980 SAT score who happens to be Asian American and went to a poor school for diversity sake?
Those types of schools are very concerned about the rank and scores, which is why they only want students who score very high. There aren't too many high scoring students in a particular group, so they have to make do with what is available.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 13:26
Subject: Re:Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
OP one thing to keep in mind is there are other places on the application that will reveal your student's ethnicity and race. My DC is also half white and half Indian. The applications ask where parents went to college. My DH went to college in India so DC had to put that on the application. Both parents' names are on the app - not just student's last name. My DC also wrote some of the shorter essays about experiences in India during childhood. Hell - I wouldn't be surprised if AOs google parents for whatever reason during the admissions process.
Anyway, I don't think it affected my DC's application as they were admitted to some very selective schools and is now attending a top 20 school.
Good luck to your DC. I think the most important thing is to let your DC show their true self on the applications and not try to be who they (or you) think the admissiosn folks want them to be.
Anyway, I don't think it affected my DC's application as they were admitted to some very selective schools and is now attending a top 20 school.
Good luck to your DC. I think the most important thing is to let your DC show their true self on the applications and not try to be who they (or you) think the admissiosn folks want them to be.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:30
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Colleges are building communities that learn, live, eat, govern and play together. The 4 years are not just about academic smarts. They are building citizens, but robots.
The fact that you’re equating smarts with robots says a lot of your bigotry due to your lack of intelligence and competitiveness.
Guess Jeff Yang is also bigoted and unintelligent...according to your way of thinking.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/opinions/yang-being-less-asian/index.html
NP here. Hate to say it, but he has a valid point. Teaching to the test is no way to live. In China, many students are excluded because everyone is the "same" (ie: meritocracy), and there are simply not enough slots for everyone to test into college admission, so they come here. Now, there are also not enough slots for admissions, but Asians only seem to want admission to certain schools, which is impossible. There are only so many seats, in any country. Period.
TL;DR: American colleges strive for diversity, very different than Asian colleges.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:29
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Why is DCUM harboring liberal racists like Asian haters in this thread?
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:25
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Americans as in real native Americans who you’ve murdered and stole from? Otherwise Asians are just as American as you are.
Last I checked, someone who is “100% Asian” means they are Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Russian, Georgian, Indian, etc.
Are you talking about Asian-Americans? Those aren’t “100% Asian.”
How much should I bet that when you ask an Asian-American where they're from and they tell you "the United States", your response is always "where are you really from?"
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:25
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Ummm they're all American. Asian is their race. What are you even talking about?
Pp said “100% Asian.” Nothing about them being Americans.
Ok a-hole. Then why would the word white sound American to you?
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:24
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Ummm they're all American. Asian is their race. What are you even talking about?
Pp said “100% Asian.” Nothing about them being Americans.
Ok a-hole. Then why would the word white sounded American to you?
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:23
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Americans as in real native Americans who you’ve murdered and stole from? Otherwise Asians are just as American as you are.
Last I checked, someone who is “100% Asian” means they are Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Russian, Georgian, Indian, etc.
Are you talking about Asian-Americans? Those aren’t “100% Asian.”
curious - what does 'half white and Asian" mean to you then?
Oh you know, all those half French half Malaysian, non US citizens using a Washington DC based message board to game their college applications....
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:20
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Americans as in real native Americans who you’ve murdered and stole from? Otherwise Asians are just as American as you are.
Last I checked, someone who is “100% Asian” means they are Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Russian, Georgian, Indian, etc.
Are you talking about Asian-Americans? Those aren’t “100% Asian.”
curious - what does 'half white and Asian" mean to you then?
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:19
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Americans as in real native Americans who you’ve murdered and stole from? Otherwise Asians are just as American as you are.
Last I checked, someone who is “100% Asian” means they are Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Russian, Georgian, Indian, etc.
Are you talking about Asian-Americans? Those aren’t “100% Asian.”
So OP should have said Asian American, but didn't have to say White American. Got it. You're definitely not a racist toolbag.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:12
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Ummm they're all American. Asian is their race. What are you even talking about?
Pp said “100% Asian.” Nothing about them being Americans.
nice - you assume the 'white' reference in the first part of the sentence meant they were American. and not, say, someone from Germany with an Asian parent. it's the whiteness that makes them American.
Exactly this.
Apparently have 100% Asian RACE automatically dismisses them from being American.
But saying White automatically does mean American.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:10
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Americans as in real native Americans who you’ve murdered and stole from? Otherwise Asians are just as American as you are.
Last I checked, someone who is “100% Asian” means they are Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese, Russian, Georgian, Indian, etc.
Are you talking about Asian-Americans? Those aren’t “100% Asian.”
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:10
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Ummm they're all American. Asian is their race. What are you even talking about?
Pp said “100% Asian.” Nothing about them being Americans.
nice - you assume the 'white' reference in the first part of the sentence meant they were American. and not, say, someone from Germany with an Asian parent. it's the whiteness that makes them American.
Anonymous
01/02/2022 11:07
Subject: Will being half-Asian work against my kids in top college acceptances?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better be half white and Asian than 100 percent Asian. They have it the toughest by far!
Why the hell should we prioritize Asians over Americans for slots at American universities? This is insane.
Ummm they're all American. Asian is their race. What are you even talking about?
Pp said “100% Asian.” Nothing about them being Americans.