Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 23:27     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.


As a biglaw associate currently billing 14 hours a day with no time to buy Christmas presents, see friends or do anything but work (including going outside and eating meals), this thread is giving me life!

I can’t imagine being arrogant about this job. You don’t even really need to be smart to do it, just willing to grind. Plz take pity on your biglaw friends and former colleagues. We are struggling.


My point above. Gov lawyers cannot grind like Biglaw.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 21:39     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.


As a biglaw associate currently billing 14 hours a day with no time to buy Christmas presents, see friends or do anything but work (including going outside and eating meals), this thread is giving me life!

I can’t imagine being arrogant about this job. You don’t even really need to be smart to do it, just willing to grind. Plz take pity on your biglaw friends and former colleagues. We are struggling.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 20:51     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.


get outta here with all that!
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 18:09     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.


And then they go back to a firm because they want more money since they’re working so many hours. Bye!
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 17:55     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 17:53     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like how agency lawyers are always suggesting that after 2 months they ha more experience than a 5th year large firm associate. Sure those firm attorneys may get paid twice as much as me, but I went to a status hearing and asked for an extension of a discovery deadline.


If you are in DOJ honors you start at the AG with a full docket of your own cases. You do trials. Right off the bat.


Same at SEC.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 11:43     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Same if you work at a non profit organization / public interest. No we aren’t the big law associate’s Plan B, unless you have a demonstrated commitment and interest in our work.


No one from big law wants to make peanuts at a non=profit.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 11:40     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Same if you work at a non profit organization / public interest. No we aren’t the big law associate’s Plan B, unless you have a demonstrated commitment and interest in our work.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 11:35     Subject: Re:Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:I am a nothing-special general litigation BigLaw attorney about to enter my sixth year. I grew up wanting to work for the government, but went BigLaw for the money. My firm is nightmarish but figured I might as well stick around and get $$$ for maternity leave, and now have been here longer than I ever planned. This thread terrifies me.


Don't be terrified, but be realistic about how you'll need to hone your experience and your network if you want to end up at the government. You'd probably be better off going in-house before trying for a government job.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 10:20     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that I am shocked that OP encountered a lawyer in Washington, DC (on of the most humble places on earth) who has an ego.
!


Seriously - LOL! Years ago, the WP put it best ... "you can't swing a dead cat w/o hitting a lawyer in DC". (And, I am one btw)
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 09:53     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:I like how agency lawyers are always suggesting that after 2 months they ha more experience than a 5th year large firm associate. Sure those firm attorneys may get paid twice as much as me, but I went to a status hearing and asked for an extension of a discovery deadline.


If you are in DOJ honors you start at the AG with a full docket of your own cases. You do trials. Right off the bat.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 09:51     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
I just want to say that I am shocked that OP encountered a lawyer in Washington, DC (on of the most humble places on earth) who has an ego.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 09:49     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
I like how agency lawyers are always suggesting that after 2 months they ha more experience than a 5th year large firm associate. Sure those firm attorneys may get paid twice as much as me, but I went to a status hearing and asked for an extension of a discovery deadline.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 09:13     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a revolving door now in Fed work. Take FDA. Work there a few years. Leave for Big Pharma. I doubt someone who initially pursued the prestige and money of Big Law would be content at a highly slow-paced bureaucratic agency.


Agree.


LOL Big Pharma have all the lawyers they need.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2021 08:37     Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:There's a revolving door now in Fed work. Take FDA. Work there a few years. Leave for Big Pharma. I doubt someone who initially pursued the prestige and money of Big Law would be content at a highly slow-paced bureaucratic agency.


Agree.