Anonymous
12/14/2021 13:52
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:
Id bet money that kid did not skip a grade.
DP. Why? I know 3 kids who grade skipped within FCPS. It's not that rare. Two of them skipped first grade altogether. The third skipped from 1st to second after a month of 1st.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 13:42
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s going to get harder to get in AAP. This is the first step towards equity and eliminate the prep crowd (scores between 130 to 140) in SES schools who are the most hated everywhere. Race, color of skin, parents status, income is more important than hard work. Even AAP kids are hated! It’s not an easy label to carry.
The unfortunate thing is some kids may suffer and some kids will get lucky, especially from lower SES schools who have lower cutoff to be in pool.
Equity means providing equal opportunities.
I’m an outsider to this process, are there people test prepping their 7 and 8 year olds for the CogAT? Jesus, burn down the whole system.
My son's class has a kid that skipped 1st grade and moved directly from K to 2nd. I know this fact because the kid told his classmates so.
I assumed the kid's Cogat scores will probably be high since it's age-adjusted.
There are some kids in my son's 2nd grade class that say a lot of things.
Id bet money that kid did not skip a grade.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 11:34
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s going to get harder to get in AAP. This is the first step towards equity and eliminate the prep crowd (scores between 130 to 140) in SES schools who are the most hated everywhere. Race, color of skin, parents status, income is more important than hard work. Even AAP kids are hated! It’s not an easy label to carry.
The unfortunate thing is some kids may suffer and some kids will get lucky, especially from lower SES schools who have lower cutoff to be in pool.
Equity means providing equal opportunities.
I’m an outsider to this process, are there people test prepping their 7 and 8 year olds for the CogAT? Jesus, burn down the whole system.
My son's class has a kid that skipped 1st grade and moved directly from K to 2nd. I know this fact because the kid told his classmates so.
I assumed the kid's Cogat scores will probably be high since it's age-adjusted.
There are some kids in my son's 2nd grade class that say a lot of things.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 11:11
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
I bet the main point of all of this is so that FCPS can publish numbers showing that the demographics of the in-pool kids more closely match the demographics of FCPS as a whole. They're booting out of the pool a lot of high scoring, high SES Asian and white kids who will just be parent referred anyway, meaning that nothing will actually change. Superficially, though, they will have data that makes them appear more equitable.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 09:12
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s going to get harder to get in AAP. This is the first step towards equity and eliminate the prep crowd (scores between 130 to 140) in SES schools who are the most hated everywhere. Race, color of skin, parents status, income is more important than hard work. Even AAP kids are hated! It’s not an easy label to carry.
The unfortunate thing is some kids may suffer and some kids will get lucky, especially from lower SES schools who have lower cutoff to be in pool.
Equity means providing equal opportunities.
I’m an outsider to this process, are there people test prepping their 7 and 8 year olds for the CogAT? Jesus, burn down the whole system.
My son's class has a kid that skipped 1st grade and moved directly from K to 2nd. I know this fact because the kid told his classmates so.
I assumed the kid's Cogat scores will probably be high since it's age-adjusted.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 09:02
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
There is literally no school in FCPS where 75% of kids scores 97th or higher. Enough hyperbole.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 09:01
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s going to get harder to get in AAP. This is the first step towards equity and eliminate the prep crowd (scores between 130 to 140) in SES schools who are the most hated everywhere. Race, color of skin, parents status, income is more important than hard work. Even AAP kids are hated! It’s not an easy label to carry.
The unfortunate thing is some kids may suffer and some kids will get lucky, especially from lower SES schools who have lower cutoff to be in pool.
Equity means providing equal opportunities.
I’m an outsider to this process, are there people test prepping their 7 and 8 year olds for the CogAT? Jesus, burn down the whole system.
Haha, welcome to Fairfax County.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 08:58
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to get harder to get in AAP. This is the first step towards equity and eliminate the prep crowd (scores between 130 to 140) in SES schools who are the most hated everywhere. Race, color of skin, parents status, income is more important than hard work. Even AAP kids are hated! It’s not an easy label to carry.
The unfortunate thing is some kids may suffer and some kids will get lucky, especially from lower SES schools who have lower cutoff to be in pool.
Equity means providing equal opportunities.
I’m an outsider to this process, are there people test prepping their 7 and 8 year olds for the CogAT? Jesus, burn down the whole system.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 08:42
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who scores in the 97th percentile or above should be screened. This is absurd.
In some schools the 97th percentile nationally would be 3/4 of the class. When the peer group is that advanced AAP isn’t as necessary.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 07:15
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
DP. If they had released results sooner it may in fact have led some parents NOT to refer, if they saw a 110 or whatever.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 06:44
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in high SES schools where even if the kid score 110, parents still refer.
Which is what I was getting at initially. Worst case scenario the group being considered is exactly the same under this year's rules and last year's rules for those high SES schools.
I don’t think that true. For some groups of parents there sure, but not across the board.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 06:41
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AAP should be there, it should be just the top 2 to 5% of the class. Not that every parent irrespective of the score is allowed to refer and gets through due to the subjective GBRS.
Gifted students need to be well served. If too performers are served in sports why not do the same for academics.
Basketball is full of AA kids, why not make room for Asian kids by lowering the standards? It’s not equity if Asians are not selected in basketball due to their height.
Equity shouldn’t be just for academics, it should be for everything and everyone.
Basing it on test scores would be fine if it weren’t for the test-prepping that is common in some schools. I think that’s why they still allow the parent referrals.
State law requires parent referrals. That’s why they allow it.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 05:03
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:AAP should be there, it should be just the top 2 to 5% of the class. Not that every parent irrespective of the score is allowed to refer and gets through due to the subjective GBRS.
Gifted students need to be well served. If too performers are served in sports why not do the same for academics.
Basketball is full of AA kids, why not make room for Asian kids by lowering the standards? It’s not equity if Asians are not selected in basketball due to their height.
Equity shouldn’t be just for academics, it should be for everything and everyone.
Basing it on test scores would be fine if it weren’t for the test-prepping that is common in some schools. I think that’s why they still allow the parent referrals.
Anonymous
12/14/2021 04:40
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anyone who scores in the 97th percentile or above should be screened. This is absurd.
Anonymous
12/13/2021 23:42
Subject: Be heard about the local building norm changes to AAP Screening Pool
Anonymous wrote:AAP should be there, it should be just the top 2 to 5% of the class. Not that every parent irrespective of the score is allowed to refer and gets through due to the subjective GBRS.
Gifted students need to be well served. If too performers are served in sports why not do the same for academics.
Basketball is full of AA kids, why not make room for Asian kids by lowering the standards? It’s not equity if Asians are not selected in basketball due to their height.
Equity shouldn’t be just for academics, it should be for everything and everyone.
Well done for bringing this up!