Anonymous
12/10/2021 09:20
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
A tip isn't based on your niceness and friendliness OP. No one wants to chit chat with you. That doesn't make them rude. They are there to dine and want to receive their accurate order in a timely manner. Tipping you "badly" doesn't make someone rude either. Tipping isn't required. People have the right to tip however they want, regardless of how you morally feel about that. Take it up with your boss if you feel you aren't being fairly compensated for your work. Perhaps pick a job with a higher fixed hourly rate or a salary.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 09:15
Subject: Re:People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am not entitled to a tip. I tip 15% more or less under the same criteria, however I'm talking about the people that, despite me being ultra-friendly:
a) Give you a hard time from the start with their bratty family of 4 kids throwing food all over the table, leaving a gargantuan mess, and asking for copious amounts of food to later be wasted and uneaten.
b) Super nice to you from start to end; too suspiciously extra nice. Usually ladies over 40 that do this and tip around $2-$4 despite how large their bill is.
c) Have lived in America their whole life and still suck at tipping because they just never caught on!
Most people clean up after themselves and if not, its your job.
And, $2-4 may be appropriate if they don't have a large bill. If they go out for lunch and the bill is $12 for one meal, that is appropriate.
You are not entitled to a tip. If you want a salary, then you need to pick another job. You work for tips. Tips are voluntary.
Not at my restaurant. We do sit-down, full-service or take-out. Our dishes are always moved to bins in the back of the kitchen, so it's not like you are even allowed to clean up yourself. You are correct - tip given by the customer should be proportional to their bill size. If you don't know yet, eating at 99% of full-service sit down restaurants implies tips are part of the bill. Because technically servers aren't getting paid by the restaurant for their "table-service," you are expected to, other don't sit down at full service tables. Servers don't stand around to take tables for free lol
Actually you do basically work for free and anything you get in terms of a tip is a bonus. A tip is not a salary/income.
I believe the IRS would disagree with you.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 09:05
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I tip 20% for adequate service, 25% for very good service, and 15% for poor service. I'd prefer to do away with the tipping system altogether, raise menu prices 20%, and pay the servers a fair wage.
+1
I'm always trying to pay the bill when out with my parents because they pay 15% tip and I find that horrifying. I will be on high alert to steal the check and pay and tip decently if its a place I frequent.
OMG same. My parents are out of touch and genuinely think 15% is a good tip; they aren't even trying to stiff the server.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 09:02
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:I tip 20% for adequate service, 25% for very good service, and 15% for poor service. I'd prefer to do away with the tipping system altogether, raise menu prices 20%, and pay the servers a fair wage.
+1
I'm always trying to pay the bill when out with my parents because they pay 15% tip and I find that horrifying. I will be on high alert to steal the check and pay and tip decently if its a place I frequent.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 08:57
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
I tip 20% for adequate service, 25% for very good service, and 15% for poor service. I'd prefer to do away with the tipping system altogether, raise menu prices 20%, and pay the servers a fair wage.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 08:34
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:OP, you will not get a 6 figure tech job when you graduate.
Tech jobs that pay 6 figures demand a lot of experience and you have to be on top of your game
Do you know my level of experience and academic achievements to be able to secure the internships and job opportunities I've had so far as a senior student? I come from a family of computer engineers, software developers, and data scientists.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 08:29
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
OP, you will not get a 6 figure tech job when you graduate.
Tech jobs that pay 6 figures demand a lot of experience and you have to be on top of your game
Tech jobs that pay 6 figures demand a lot of experience and you have to be on top of your game
Anonymous
12/10/2021 07:58
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:You are not entitled to a tip.
A standard tip is 15% - less if you do a bad job, more if you do well or someone can afford it/chooses to.
Maybe your service is bad.
This right here is the best argument I can think of for eliminating the tipped wage - d-bag customers like the PP.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 07:46
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:30’s families, 20s and 30’s couples tip the best. Most older women do not tip well. Most but not all older men do. The after church crowd is both notoriously needy, rude, and poor at tipping and that generalization is 100% true.
That may be because all women over forty are typically not provided as good customer service. So they’re less inclined to tip well when they haven’t been treated as well. Waiters etc. provide better customer service to men. This is true even in circumstances where they aren’t tipped, like flight attendants.
What the actual? I'm a 46 year old middle class white woman. I get excellent service in restaurants and stores etc. I do notice some tension in the beginning of the interaction b.c they know I'm in the Karen demographic. But it's very easy to be truly nice and chill then they visibly relax. And then I tip 25%. I also try to do the customer surveys from Target and Total Wine etc and I fill in all 5s.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 06:46
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
I believe restaurants should pay a living wage but until.they do, I tip 20%
Anonymous
12/10/2021 06:42
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:Actually, I find servers to be a pretty entitled group. They all expect 20%+ tips for mediocre service at best. I don’t care how “friendly” you are. That isn’t your job. Get the order right, be prompt as can be with what is in your control. That is all. I don’t want a bunch a chit chat and friendly banter, meanwhile you forget half the items, order is wrong, you take forever to come back to table.
I don't know where you eat, but I have no interest in talking to you. I work in European cafe and people come there to talk to each other not the servers. We have no time to talk to customers as it is busy as heck. My tips don't depend on talking; they depend on me moving fast.
There are customers who tip more if I talk less, move fast and anticipate their needs without having to say anything. I like them a lot.
I don't expect 20% because we get a lot of elderly folks, students and tourists.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 05:45
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Actually, I find servers to be a pretty entitled group. They all expect 20%+ tips for mediocre service at best. I don’t care how “friendly” you are. That isn’t your job. Get the order right, be prompt as can be with what is in your control. That is all. I don’t want a bunch a chit chat and friendly banter, meanwhile you forget half the items, order is wrong, you take forever to come back to table.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 00:49
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Sometimes it could be health issues. Going through receipts, I discovered that a family member left poor tips before any of us realized he had dementia.
I also realized much too late that I had made mistakes in calculating the tips a couple of times when I was really tired from traveling and in a different time zone.
And some people are just bad at math. That might be exacerbated after they’ve had a couple of drinks.
I also realized much too late that I had made mistakes in calculating the tips a couple of times when I was really tired from traveling and in a different time zone.
And some people are just bad at math. That might be exacerbated after they’ve had a couple of drinks.
Anonymous
12/10/2021 00:03
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should work in the service industry. Your EQ will be off the charts and you'll be a better, kinder person.
I’m going with this.
Over 40 woman here and whatever PPs have said I always tip well. I worked a restaurant job in HS and during college. How people treat their servers could easily be a whole branch of psychology. My spouse now treats servers well. My kids behave and don’t make messes in restaurants. They are also learning a) how to interact with restaurant staff with manners and b) how to calculate a 20% tip. We don’t all suck (women over 40 or families).
15% is standard, not 20%
Anonymous
12/09/2021 23:40
Subject: People who treat servers rudely
Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should work in the service industry. Your EQ will be off the charts and you'll be a better, kinder person.
I’m going with this.
Over 40 woman here and whatever PPs have said I always tip well. I worked a restaurant job in HS and during college. How people treat their servers could easily be a whole branch of psychology. My spouse now treats servers well. My kids behave and don’t make messes in restaurants. They are also learning a) how to interact with restaurant staff with manners and b) how to calculate a 20% tip. We don’t all suck (women over 40 or families).