Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:42     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


Great!! Thanks for letting us make our own choices, as you are free to make your own also.

Not a single hospital in MoCo is currently or has ever been overwhelmed. Looks like we’re ready to drop the mask mandates.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:40     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.


It's interesting that you should say that, because in my experience, the people in the poorer, less white parts of the county - who were hardest hit by covid - are also the most consistent about wearing masks in public places. In contrast, the people I know who are least consistent about wearing masks in public places are affluent old white Republicans.


Really? Obviously you haven’t been to some of the more lower-income areas in Baltimore. Nary a mask to be seen. And not tons of white Republicans there.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:39     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."


This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.

80% was using "precaution". Now it's 85%. Next month it will be 90%. Then 100%, which we will probably never achieve. The problem with moving goal posts is that you will never hit the goal.


Just wait until they make it 105%......


LOL! This is Montgomery County. Run by a bunch of lunatics. That could be the next goalpost.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:29     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:It’s becoming very clear that being vaccinated means almost nothing in terms of not getting covid.

So the vaccine keeps most people from having severe cases that require hospitalization. Ok, that’s great. But you know what? Most people who get covid don’t require hospitalization either. So there’s that.

But it clearly doesn’t do much to prevent infection.


It's weird how case rates are so much lower in highly vaccinated places, though...
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:22     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

It’s becoming very clear that being vaccinated means almost nothing in terms of not getting covid.

So the vaccine keeps most people from having severe cases that require hospitalization. Ok, that’s great. But you know what? Most people who get covid don’t require hospitalization either. So there’s that.

But it clearly doesn’t do much to prevent infection.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:22     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."


This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.

80% was using "precaution". Now it's 85%. Next month it will be 90%. Then 100%, which we will probably never achieve. The problem with moving goal posts is that you will never hit the goal.


Just wait until they make it 105%......


Everyone is capable of giving 110%.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 17:11     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:

You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.


It's interesting that you should say that, because in my experience, the people in the poorer, less white parts of the county - who were hardest hit by covid - are also the most consistent about wearing masks in public places. In contrast, the people I know who are least consistent about wearing masks in public places are affluent old white Republicans.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 16:46     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.


You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 16:03     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.

There is no “government mandate” in DC and yet everywhere you go you are required to wear a mask except while actively eating at a restaurant.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 15:53     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 15:47     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."


This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.

80% was using "precaution". Now it's 85%. Next month it will be 90%. Then 100%, which we will probably never achieve. The problem with moving goal posts is that you will never hit the goal.


Just wait until they make it 105%......
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 15:26     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


We aren't stretching toward year 3. We haven't even completed year 2.


How Moco would get to a Michigan situation when 80% or 95%, or whatever it is, of our population is vaccinated? If you think masking reduces the spread of covid that much, then why were our numbers so high in January 2021 when everyone was masking and kids weren't even in person for school? The vaccines are good. Moco has very successfully used them. So why keep moving the goalposts on masks?
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 15:15     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.


We aren't stretching toward year 3. We haven't even completed year 2.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 14:58     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 13:21     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grow up, be responsible and wear a mask. Really, how hard is that?


Being an obedient, irrational sheep is not something to brag about. You know that, right?

As PPs have said, highly liberal jurisdictions like DC and Arlington don’t have mask mandates and are doing just fine. Also, as PPs have said it is all about control and not about science. Having no restrictions on having a two hour meal indoors next to other patrons and staff, but mandating wearing a mask when you are in CVS to run in and get some shampoo and use the self checkout makes absolutely no sense and has no bearing on science. Moving the goalposts on vaccination percentages because of a variant that is less lethal makes no sense as well.

If our leaders actually made regulations based on science and concerns for public safety and not based on cynical political maneuvering, fear mongering, or to appease business interests a lot of us would take their recommendations in better faith.


We are still having high spread. That is not fine.


And nobody is telling you to ditch YOUR mask. Keep your mask on as long as you want. Give other people the CHOICE.

I'll still wear my mask at Target. But let our kids take off their masks at school if they want.