Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:45
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
PP didn’t make the point you wish they were making. It’s a valid question that no one has yet to answer. Why is that?
Gender and sexuality are fluid. Race and ethnicity are not. This is the answer to your question, but I know you won’t accept it.
It’s fluid bc people decided it was fluid in order to become more accepting. So if you can accept one you can accept the other.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:45
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
NP
I didn’t read it as the PP calling out trandgenderism. It’s a valid question - why is identifying as a different gender ok but identifying as a different race not?
You'll have to take up this question with world history, considering lots civilizations across millennia have had varying forms of transgenderism or cross-dressing and it was deemed socially acceptable in certain contexts.
Meanwhile, the only times you've had people trying to cosplay a different ethnicity was when it gave them a sense of safety (see: "passing" by light skinned black people during the slavery & Jim Crow eras, Jewish people during the Holocaust, etc) or in ways that were fundamentally rooted in disrespect and stereotyping (see: black face on the stage/TV).
The history of world societies has treated transgenderism differently from ethnic cosplay. The world isn't fair. Deal with it.
So your answer why one is acceptable and one isn’t is “Because that’s just the way it is”?
Very persuasive.
And also good to know societies and cultures can’t and don’t ever change. They just keep on keepin’ on with THE WAY IT IS.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:44
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
NP
I didn’t read it as the PP calling out trandgenderism. It’s a valid question - why is identifying as a different gender ok but identifying as a different race not?
You'll have to take up this question with world history, considering lots civilizations across millennia have had varying forms of transgenderism or cross-dressing and it was deemed socially acceptable in certain contexts.
Meanwhile, the only times you've had people trying to cosplay a different ethnicity was when it gave them a sense of safety (see: "passing" by light skinned black people during the slavery & Jim Crow eras, Jewish people during the Holocaust, etc) or in ways that were fundamentally rooted in disrespect and stereotyping (see: black face on the stage/TV).
The history of world societies has treated transgenderism differently from ethnic cosplay. The world isn't fair. Deal with it.
You’re right it isn’t fair. So here we are discussing it. Deal with it.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:44
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
PP didn’t make the point you wish they were making. It’s a valid question that no one has yet to answer. Why is that?
Gender and sexuality are fluid. Race and ethnicity are not. This is the answer to your question, but I know you won’t accept it.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:41
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
Nope. You want to play a game so let’s play. Your argument is hypocritical. I accept trans people and people who celebrate other cultures.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:41
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
NP
I didn’t read it as the PP calling out trandgenderism. It’s a valid question - why is identifying as a different gender ok but identifying as a different race not?
You'll have to take up this question with world history, considering lots civilizations across millennia have had varying forms of transgenderism or cross-dressing and it was deemed socially acceptable in certain contexts.
Meanwhile, the only times you've had people trying to cosplay a different ethnicity was when it gave them a sense of safety (see: "passing" by light skinned black people during the slavery & Jim Crow eras, Jewish people during the Holocaust, etc) or in ways that were fundamentally rooted in disrespect and stereotyping (see: black face on the stage/TV).
The history of world societies has treated transgenderism differently from ethnic cosplay. The world isn't fair. Deal with it.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:41
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
You are responding to a different poster than the one who brought this topic into this thread. I am the poster who brought it up initially. I don't have a problem with transgender people at all. Just like I can't get upset with Ariana Grande adopting different ethnicities. I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset with it.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:40
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
PP didn’t make the point you wish they were making. It’s a valid question that no one has yet to answer. Why is that?
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:39
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Exactly. They were mocking black people. Which that poster knows but thinks they are making a point. If you aren’t mocking a culture then what’s the problem? If men can dress up as women and vice versa and everyone is suppose to accept it then you should have no problem accepting this.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:37
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Lol, thanks for confirming my initial point — your argument is all about your problem with transgender people 👍
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:36
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Agree. There is no reason why one is acceptable and one is not. And if there is a good reason, I have yet to hear it.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:35
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Then so is playing dress up as a different gender.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:33
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Playing dress up as a different race? Nah, it’s the same.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:30
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
People who put of blackface were not identifying as black people. Completely different.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:29
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Oh, northern European-descended white people have no idea that Italian, Spanish, and Latin American people all have very similar features. Olive-toned skin, dark eyes, etc...
You're cute.
You're cute.