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Anonymous wrote:Just got a letter from the principal about an "altercation in a classroom," and ambulance transport of a student. This was clearly not a chemistry experiment gone wrong. I hope and pray the kid will be ok. Do we need metal detectors now?

There's so much violence in the W's these days. What's happened to these schools?

I assume this is sarcasm and if so, it's sad. Has violence not increased in all schools that experienced significant lengths of distance learning over the past year and a half, as well as in other sectors of society (domestically and other crimes)?

There is no justification for this kind of attack. No amount of Restorative justice, and they better not just transfer the kid to another public school.

1- real consequences - kid needs to be at RICA or some other appropriate place away from Gen Ed studemts to be educated.

2 - bring back the SROs, STAT

#1 is more than just this particular hot-head student. We need to bring back real consequences, period. No more fake apologies and return to the same bad behavior, be it bullying, fighting, selling drugs, etc. Get the trouble makers away from the general population.

Anonymous wrote:Those justifying the attack as the result of teasing need to do some serious reflection (and work on resilience with your kids.)

Mit is symptomatic of a deeper pathology that involves thinking that because there are two sides to every story we should stop making judgements and imposing discipline.

Sometimes there are not two sides. There is an aggressor and a victim. And there need to be consequences that deter this behavior and prevent it recurring

Those justifying the attack as the result of teasing need to do some serious reflection (and work on resilience with your kids.)

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

Sounds like he was being bullied. Not gently teased.

Can’t make that assumption based on what PP wrote. Not all teasing is considered bullying.

Granted that there are different forms of teasing. But the description of 'gently teasing' seems really off. Odds are that there is a back-story so that if this one instance seemed 'gentle' from the outside it was likely one of many interactions this kid faced on an ongoing basis. The last straw.

To be clear, no one deserves to be beaten by a chair and the other 'teasing' could have come from other kids. But what I'm saying is that I don't think the kid who lashed out would have described his situation as 'gentle teasing.'

Sounds like both kids were bullies. There is no such thing as gentle teasing. The parent must be justifying their kid being a bully with "gentle" teasing. That is bullying when its not wanted. Clearly the chair attacker didn't think it was "gentle" teasing and snapped.

There was no bullying. I heard directly from a friend of my child’s who witnessed it that it was just a sports-related joke that it no way could be considered bullying. I won’t go into more detail to protect their anonymity, but the people thinking this is someone snapping after years of bullying are really barking up the wrong tree.

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

Sounds like he was being bullied. Not gently teased.

Can’t make that assumption based on what PP wrote. Not all teasing is considered bullying.

Granted that there are different forms of teasing. But the description of 'gently teasing' seems really off. Odds are that there is a back-story so that if this one instance seemed 'gentle' from the outside it was likely one of many interactions this kid faced on an ongoing basis. The last straw.

To be clear, no one deserves to be beaten by a chair and the other 'teasing' could have come from other kids. But what I'm saying is that I don't think the kid who lashed out would have described his situation as 'gentle teasing.'

Sounds like both kids were bullies. There is no such thing as gentle teasing. The parent must be justifying their kid being a bully with "gentle" teasing. That is bullying when its not wanted. Clearly the chair attacker didn't think it was "gentle" teasing and snapped.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.

+1

Using “bullying” as a loophole for your kid’s propensity for snapping is totally out of line. And you wonder why the parent gets blamed?

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

Sounds like he was being bullied. Not gently teased.

Can’t make that assumption based on what PP wrote. Not all teasing is considered bullying.

Granted that there are different forms of teasing. But the description of 'gently teasing' seems really off. Odds are that there is a back-story so that if this one instance seemed 'gentle' from the outside it was likely one of many interactions this kid faced on an ongoing basis. The last straw.

To be clear, no one deserves to be beaten by a chair and the other 'teasing' could have come from other kids. But what I'm saying is that I don't think the kid who lashed out would have described his situation as 'gentle teasing.'

Why do you think any teasing was involved at all? You weren’t there.

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

Sounds like he was being bullied. Not gently teased.

Can’t make that assumption based on what PP wrote. Not all teasing is considered bullying.

Granted that there are different forms of teasing. But the description of 'gently teasing' seems really off. Odds are that there is a back-story so that if this one instance seemed 'gentle' from the outside it was likely one of many interactions this kid faced on an ongoing basis. The last straw.

To be clear, no one deserves to be beaten by a chair and the other 'teasing' could have come from other kids. But what I'm saying is that I don't think the kid who lashed out would have described his situation as 'gentle teasing.'

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

Sounds like he was being bullied. Not gently teased.

Can’t make that assumption based on what PP wrote. Not all teasing is considered bullying.

Granted that there are different forms of teasing. But the description of 'gently teasing' seems really off. Odds are that there is a back-story so that if this one instance seemed 'gentle' from the outside it was likely one of many interactions this kid faced on an ongoing basis. The last straw.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.

Agree. This comment is really out of place given the level of violence that happened. It’s not like one kid just pushed another kid.

You stop trying to create a system where kids can hurt each other endless as long as it’s never physical.

Anonymous wrote:Just got a letter from the principal about an "altercation in a classroom," and ambulance transport of a student. This was clearly not a chemistry experiment gone wrong. I hope and pray the kid will be ok. Do we need metal detectors now?

There's so much violence in the W's these days. What's happened to these schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

Metal detectors will slow entrance into the school too much to be feasible. It would take hours to let all those kids in after a proper search. Think about your TSA lines at the airport.

They just walk through it.

No, they don't. They will have to remove everything metal and place it in a bucket to be scanned by an xray machine. Or else every kid's chromebook will set it off. It's just like going through security at the court house. Then if someone still sets off the machine, they need to bring a same sex security guard over to wand the person.

And add some ghost guns to the mix. Some are not detectable by metal detectors. And guess who's purchasing or making ghost guns? Teens. You can order the parts on the internet. Or print out some of the parts with a 3D printer.

Someone please ask how many of the guns recovered or used by teens, in school or out in the community, have been ghost guns. I'd love to know. Because their use is skyrocketing.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.

Agree. This comment is really out of place given the level of violence that happened. It’s not like one kid just pushed another kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

Metal detectors will slow entrance into the school too much to be feasible. It would take hours to let all those kids in after a proper search. Think about your TSA lines at the airport.

They just walk through it.