Anonymous
11/15/2021 07:47
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haverford
+100. It is the Quaker vibe.
Why is it not the same at Sidwell? Location?
People don't go to Sidwell because of any Quaker values/policies/vibe...when you hear about why people send their kids there, it's about the academics (and prestige, no doubt, has a lot to do with it).
Haverford absolutely has first-rate academics but it is a Quaker institution at its core...and it IS what attracts many students...
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False. There are only 75,000 Quakers left in the US and they are too old to have college-aged kids. Ever see the deserted Quaker church in Nantucket? It’s a dying religion. Also Haverford, like most Protestant missionary training schools started in the US, no longer has any affiliation with Quakerism.
Don't know what you mean by "has no affiliation with Quakerism" and it is nonsectarian...but it's Quaker roots are strong and it is unapologetic about it...
https://www.haverford.edu/sites/default/files/Office/President/Haverford-Quaker-Elements.pdf
Go look Haverford on wiki ir it’s own page. It no longer has any religious connection with Quakerism just as my own Slac no longer has any connection with the Presbyterian Church and Harvard has no connection with the Congregationalist church. Even the President of Haverford Wendy E Raymond is not Quaker. They may want to claim there is not “feel” there but it’s purely projection on your part if you think it’s there, just like there is no Quaker “feel” to Sudwell.
May not be associated with Quakerism anymore, but it still has the Quaker feel and is still run with Quaker values. Also, Sidwell still has a Quaker feel.
Anonymous
11/15/2021 02:39
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd imagine a highly competitive public. Private universities are chock full of privileged brats. At least mine was.
Purdue for STEM, eg, yes. UVA, no, as this board shows so much pomp and snootiness and weird obsession with reputation.
You HAVE to know that at a large public university like UVA, the people posting on here represent a tiny fraction of students and that it, like every other large public university, draws a huge range of students from around Virginia and the country. Come on.
+1. Show me the pomp and snootiness by UVA people here. What I have see over and over is that people here bash UVA because they or their kid didn’t get in and they are still annoyed - or kids from UVA’s rivals, UMD and Vtech want to have some fun tearing it down as in the frequent asinine “UVA is overrated”post. The response is almost always someone carefully correcting the false info, usually bolstered by citations, a quote and a link. I’ve never, ever, seen a thread started by someone claiming to be a UVA student, grad, or parent raving about it. Frankly I don’t think they have the time to bother with this site just like you don’t see threads started by Harvard or Stanford people raving about their school and demonstrating “pomp and snootiness”. Why would they bother? What you see on in this forum is sour grapes by those who didn’t get in or knew not to bother even applying followed by an absurd claim (“pomp and snootiness “) and then various voices correcting that claim.
Anonymous
11/15/2021 02:25
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haverford
+100. It is the Quaker vibe.
Why is it not the same at Sidwell? Location?
People don't go to Sidwell because of any Quaker values/policies/vibe...when you hear about why people send their kids there, it's about the academics (and prestige, no doubt, has a lot to do with it).
Haverford absolutely has first-rate academics but it is a Quaker institution at its core...and it IS what attracts many students...
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False. There are only 75,000 Quakers left in the US and they are too old to have college-aged kids. Ever see the deserted Quaker church in Nantucket? It’s a dying religion. Also Haverford, like most Protestant missionary training schools started in the US, no longer has any affiliation with Quakerism.
Don't know what you mean by "has no affiliation with Quakerism" and it is nonsectarian...but it's Quaker roots are strong and it is unapologetic about it...
https://www.haverford.edu/sites/default/files/Office/President/Haverford-Quaker-Elements.pdf
Go look Haverford on wiki ir it’s own page. It no longer has any religious connection with Quakerism just as my own Slac no longer has any connection with the Presbyterian Church and Harvard has no connection with the Congregationalist church. Even the President of Haverford Wendy E Raymond is not Quaker. They may want to claim there is not “feel” there but it’s purely projection on your part if you think it’s there, just like there is no Quaker “feel” to Sudwell.
Anonymous
11/15/2021 01:56
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:What are elite, or very good schools (say average ACT 30/31 or higher), have the most down to earth students? That aren't super competitive amongst students even if students have strong aspirations?
The two Yale alumni I've known were great.
Anonymous
11/15/2021 01:52
Subject: Re:Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
NOT Bowdoin- very white, upper class, prep-school, snooty New England brats. Wanna be IVY's that couldn't get in.
+1
Uninformed take on Borodin. What are you, 12?
No, my daughter went there and had a hard time socially as a woman of color. Very cliquey students with little exposure to students with difference- culturally or otherwise. Wonderful teachers, though, and that's what got her through. Brunswick is a cute town, but also lacks diversity and somewhat isolated. It's the social piece that is tough as a woman of color.
If diversity was that important for her then why would she have applied? I’d also say that describing students as bratty is sophomoric. Your daughter made a bad decision but that’s not a reflection on the school. Grow up.
If you're a Bowdoin alum: You're not helping it look better.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 23:49
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tufts
No. This actually made me LOL.
DP I graduated from Tufts and found it to be a very cooperative, non-competitive environment. Not sure where you are getting your information from or if you simply have an axe to grind.
I don’t have an axe to grind, but your information is clearly out of date. My daughter has two friends there and hears plenty about the current atmosphere there.
My son is there, studying engineering, and has found it to be a very friendly, collaborative environment. He has also been struck by how outgoing the majority of students are. He is having a very good time inside and outside the classroom.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 19:45
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Olin engineering
Anonymous
11/14/2021 19:05
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Midwestern schools. WashU has a focus on collaboration and the students are generally supportive of each other.
My daughter goes there and this has been her experience so far.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:53
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Tufts
Ayfkm?
no
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:28
Subject: Re:Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
NOT Bowdoin- very white, upper class, prep-school, snooty New England brats. Wanna be IVY's that couldn't get in.
+1
Uninformed take on Borodin. What are you, 12?
No, my daughter went there and had a hard time socially as a woman of color. Very cliquey students with little exposure to students with difference- culturally or otherwise. Wonderful teachers, though, and that's what got her through. Brunswick is a cute town, but also lacks diversity and somewhat isolated. It's the social piece that is tough as a woman of color.
If diversity was that important for her then why would she have applied? I’d also say that describing students as bratty is sophomoric. Your daughter made a bad decision but that’s not a reflection on the school. Grow up.
There should not be schools that are socially challenging because you are not white in 2021. It is not about numbers, it is about how she was treated. How DARE you blame her for choosing an unwelcoming environment.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:22
Subject: Re:Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
NOT Bowdoin- very white, upper class, prep-school, snooty New England brats. Wanna be IVY's that couldn't get in.
+1
Uninformed take on Borodin. What are you, 12?
No, my daughter went there and had a hard time socially as a woman of color. Very cliquey students with little exposure to students with difference- culturally or otherwise. Wonderful teachers, though, and that's what got her through. Brunswick is a cute town, but also lacks diversity and somewhat isolated. It's the social piece that is tough as a woman of color.
If diversity was that important for her then why would she have applied? I’d also say that describing students as bratty is sophomoric. Your daughter made a bad decision but that’s not a reflection on the school. Grow up.
I've read many of DCUM responses in my day but this comes across as nearly the most obnoxious. Mother of daughter who experienced a difficult time at Bowdoin socially, I'm sorry. Strong academics but insular.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:18
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do down to earth students self select in particular elite schools?
Yes.
+1 Absolutely.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:14
Subject: Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Do down to earth students self select in particular elite schools?
Yes.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:07
Subject: Re:Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
NOT Bowdoin- very white, upper class, prep-school, snooty New England brats. Wanna be IVY's that couldn't get in.
+1
Uninformed take on Borodin. What are you, 12?
No, my daughter went there and had a hard time socially as a woman of color. Very cliquey students with little exposure to students with difference- culturally or otherwise. Wonderful teachers, though, and that's what got her through. Brunswick is a cute town, but also lacks diversity and somewhat isolated. It's the social piece that is tough as a woman of color.
If diversity was that important for her then why would she have applied? I’d also say that describing students as bratty is sophomoric. Your daughter made a bad decision but that’s not a reflection on the school. Grow up.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 18:01
Subject: Re:Elite schools with down to earth students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
NOT Bowdoin- very white, upper class, prep-school, snooty New England brats. Wanna be IVY's that couldn't get in.
+1
Uninformed take on Borodin. What are you, 12?
No, my daughter went there and had a hard time socially as a woman of color. Very cliquey students with little exposure to students with difference- culturally or otherwise. Wonderful teachers, though, and that's what got her through. Brunswick is a cute town, but also lacks diversity and somewhat isolated. It's the social piece that is tough as a woman of color.