Anonymous
12/02/2021 06:58
Subject: Re:SYC social media
I'm not part of SYC and just reading this thread. Just curious on the statement "I could care less where you take your kid and I'm not trying to convince you to stay with SYC but you are not really looking at the bigger picture properly and you will likely simply double down and make another bad decision because your overall logic is wrong."
What exactly is the bigger picture? Is it for the club to move to the next level/league? The kids are just conduits for the club to have a chance at the next level. Kids need to come in already skilled/developed and ready to go? Coaches are there just to sub in players and identify formation of play? . The issue becomes if a couple key people leave, half (or more) of the team may follow suit, but you don't care .
What exactly is the bigger picture? Is it for the club to move to the next level/league? The kids are just conduits for the club to have a chance at the next level. Kids need to come in already skilled/developed and ready to go? Coaches are there just to sub in players and identify formation of play? . The issue becomes if a couple key people leave, half (or more) of the team may follow suit, but you don't care .
Anonymous
12/01/2021 21:05
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is/are the reason(s) why SYC’s older teams are struggling so bad? I’m looking for any response you can muster. I absolutely don’t believe you’re not a coach, and in fact I think you are even more now. How do you know so much about VDA, Arlington, and Loudoun but so little about SYC program? I have seen the training formats and it’s all the same from 9 vs. 9 on up. It worked great for us, and, I can see its limitations.
Please, coach. Tell me. And this is really embarrassing I can get more information from SYC coaches in an anonymous forum than I can from “evaluations” or the preseason meetings.
Top talent left years ago for existing DA or ECNL teams like VDA, Arlington, McLean etc. They performed fine at CCL but MLSNext is higher competition. It really isn't more complicated than that.
Winning at the next level might need higher quality coaching but the talent on those older teams simply isn't there. The younger teams are retaining their talent as well as attracing some outside players.
I'm simply repeating myself at this point and yet again, you are not only to stupid to understand you are to stubborn to try an understand.
I could care less where you take your kid and I'm not trying to convince you to stay with SYC but you are not really looking at the bigger picture properly and you will likely simply double down and make another bad decision because your overall logic is wrong.
I suspect it's a combination of both reasons to be honest. Sure kids left, but good coaches would get more out of the players that are there.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 15:35
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is/are the reason(s) why SYC’s older teams are struggling so bad? I’m looking for any response you can muster. I absolutely don’t believe you’re not a coach, and in fact I think you are even more now. How do you know so much about VDA, Arlington, and Loudoun but so little about SYC program? I have seen the training formats and it’s all the same from 9 vs. 9 on up. It worked great for us, and, I can see its limitations.
Please, coach. Tell me. And this is really embarrassing I can get more information from SYC coaches in an anonymous forum than I can from “evaluations” or the preseason meetings.
Top talent left years ago for existing DA or ECNL teams like VDA, Arlington, McLean etc. They performed fine at CCL but MLSNext is higher competition. It really isn't more complicated than that.
Winning at the next level might need higher quality coaching but the talent on those older teams simply isn't there. The younger teams are retaining their talent as well as attracing some outside players.
I'm simply repeating myself at this point and yet again, you are not only to stupid to understand you are to stubborn to try an understand.
I could care less where you take your kid and I'm not trying to convince you to stay with SYC but you are not really looking at the bigger picture properly and you will likely simply double down and make another bad decision because your overall logic is wrong.
Dude is all the above, dumb and dumbass, go get a life.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 13:17
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:What is/are the reason(s) why SYC’s older teams are struggling so bad? I’m looking for any response you can muster. I absolutely don’t believe you’re not a coach, and in fact I think you are even more now. How do you know so much about VDA, Arlington, and Loudoun but so little about SYC program? I have seen the training formats and it’s all the same from 9 vs. 9 on up. It worked great for us, and, I can see its limitations.
Please, coach. Tell me. And this is really embarrassing I can get more information from SYC coaches in an anonymous forum than I can from “evaluations” or the preseason meetings.
Top talent left years ago for existing DA or ECNL teams like VDA, Arlington, McLean etc. They performed fine at CCL but MLSNext is higher competition. It really isn't more complicated than that.
Winning at the next level might need higher quality coaching but the talent on those older teams simply isn't there. The younger teams are retaining their talent as well as attracing some outside players.
I'm simply repeating myself at this point and yet again, you are not only to stupid to understand you are to stubborn to try an understand.
I could care less where you take your kid and I'm not trying to convince you to stay with SYC but you are not really looking at the bigger picture properly and you will likely simply double down and make another bad decision because your overall logic is wrong.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 12:57
Subject: SYC social media
What is/are the reason(s) why SYC’s older teams are struggling so bad? I’m looking for any response you can muster. I absolutely don’t believe you’re not a coach, and in fact I think you are even more now. How do you know so much about VDA, Arlington, and Loudoun but so little about SYC program? I have seen the training formats and it’s all the same from 9 vs. 9 on up. It worked great for us, and, I can see its limitations.
Please, coach. Tell me. And this is really embarrassing I can get more information from SYC coaches in an anonymous forum than I can from “evaluations” or the preseason meetings.
Please, coach. Tell me. And this is really embarrassing I can get more information from SYC coaches in an anonymous forum than I can from “evaluations” or the preseason meetings.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 01:04
Subject: SYC social media
is it Dill? D ill Pickle?
Anonymous
11/30/2021 20:01
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not a coach” you just blindly and vehemently defend them and constantly change the subject. Btw younger teams have winning records good job; that won’t translate. U15 and up are all negative scoring differences. But hey at least they were winning at younger age groups? Btw 2007 MLS Next last year also could barely score. The only common denominator of proficiency is the coach of U13 and U14 MLS Next, or, the fact those age groups haven’t adjusted to puberty yet.
I'm not defending SYC, I'm explaining what happens to nearly ALL new clubs who are suddenly thrown into these leagues.
VDA SUCKED for a few years until their own player pool started to establish themselves.
Arlington is going through the same thing as well as Loudoun on the girls side.
I'm not saying SYC will be a top MLSNext club, but I am saying that their younger "homegrown" teams should perform better than their suddenly promoted older teams.
Your narrative of why the older teams are performing poorly is lacking proper context.
Again, as I said a page or two ago you will not listen because you have already made up your mind on this matter. I'm just telling you that you shouldn't necessarily attribute performance characteristics of older age groups to their younger counterparts in this context. Judge your kids team and age group on their own merits. If you're unhappy with your team so be it, but you are also free to leave and keep it all to yourself but you're the one who came here hoping for cheerleaders.
Pay no mind to this parent still mad his kid wasn't on SYC first team now tries to bad mouth them.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:47
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:“Not a coach” you just blindly and vehemently defend them and constantly change the subject. Btw younger teams have winning records good job; that won’t translate. U15 and up are all negative scoring differences. But hey at least they were winning at younger age groups? Btw 2007 MLS Next last year also could barely score. The only common denominator of proficiency is the coach of U13 and U14 MLS Next, or, the fact those age groups haven’t adjusted to puberty yet.
I'm not defending SYC, I'm explaining what happens to nearly ALL new clubs who are suddenly thrown into these leagues.
VDA SUCKED for a few years until their own player pool started to establish themselves.
Arlington is going through the same thing as well as Loudoun on the girls side.
I'm not saying SYC will be a top MLSNext club, but I am saying that their younger "homegrown" teams should perform better than their suddenly promoted older teams.
Your narrative of why the older teams are performing poorly is lacking proper context.
Again, as I said a page or two ago you will not listen because you have already made up your mind on this matter. I'm just telling you that you shouldn't necessarily attribute performance characteristics of older age groups to their younger counterparts in this context. Judge your kids team and age group on their own merits. If you're unhappy with your team so be it, but you are also free to leave and keep it all to yourself but you're the one who came here hoping for cheerleaders.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:39
Subject: SYC social media
“Not a coach” you just blindly and vehemently defend them and constantly change the subject. Btw younger teams have winning records good job; that won’t translate. U15 and up are all negative scoring differences. But hey at least they were winning at younger age groups? Btw 2007 MLS Next last year also could barely score. The only common denominator of proficiency is the coach of U13 and U14 MLS Next, or, the fact those age groups haven’t adjusted to puberty yet.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:52
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Look at this information that shows SYC isn’t good enough to be in MLS Next.” Response: “your stupid”. Thanks for responding coach.
I wasn’t able to find league charter but I can’t help think SYC goes back down to only 2 MLS Next teams. I’m sure the leadership would be okay with that. At least it’s become more clear to see DS’s path.
Because you don't understand why the older teams are not performing well while the younger teams are doing fine.
Did you honestly believe that simply swapping a CCL patch for a MLSNext patch suddenly made the same SYC team better?
Are you really this stupid?
Hi coach. You can only say what you’re saying so consistently based on one thing: insight. You are aware “best players on old teams left” because you coach there and are actively on these boards. I can give you my insight, since my son is a player with an SYC MLS Next team (not in high school). The older teams do so poorly and so much more poorly because of the development. SYC is good at little kid soccer. It’s route 1 stuff. But once a player goes through puberty and starts to understand the game, that’s when SYC development stops.
Do I think swapping a patch helps makes them compete? No, but the teams recruited a lot of players to compensate for players that leave to better clubs. If you spent half as much time coming up with some type of plan, you wouldn’t have to make social media posts, or be on DCUM forum.
LOL, not a coach, but talent leave teams/clubs when they seek out a higher challenge than the current team/club can provide. This usually happens around U13-U15. Kids who wish to play in college need to seek out a club or team in an established league for recruiting exposure.
Now that SYC has MLSNext they should be able to hang onto more players than they had in the past.
This is not really a new concept. Kids at clubs without ECNL, DA, GA or whatever in the past have always left their clubs for teams who participate in those leagues. Membership in these leagues make the clubs destination clubs of sorts. Without affiliation to these leagues clubs will ALWAYS and FOREVER lose their most promising players to those affiliated clubs.
Both U13 and U14 SYC teams have winning records and yet it is no surprise that the older teams are struggling because the top players left years ago.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:44
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Look at this information that shows SYC isn’t good enough to be in MLS Next.” Response: “your stupid”. Thanks for responding coach.
I wasn’t able to find league charter but I can’t help think SYC goes back down to only 2 MLS Next teams. I’m sure the leadership would be okay with that. At least it’s become more clear to see DS’s path.
Because you don't understand why the older teams are not performing well while the younger teams are doing fine.
Did you honestly believe that simply swapping a CCL patch for a MLSNext patch suddenly made the same SYC team better?
Are you really this stupid?
Hi coach. You can only say what you’re saying so consistently based on one thing: insight. You are aware “best players on old teams left” because you coach there and are actively on these boards. I can give you my insight, since my son is a player with an SYC MLS Next team (not in high school). The older teams do so poorly and so much more poorly because of the development. SYC is good at little kid soccer. It’s route 1 stuff. But once a player goes through puberty and starts to understand the game, that’s when SYC development stops.
Do I think swapping a patch helps makes them compete? No, but the teams recruited a lot of players to compensate for players that leave to better clubs. If you spent half as much time coming up with some type of plan, you wouldn’t have to make social media posts, or be on DCUM forum.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:10
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:“Look at this information that shows SYC isn’t good enough to be in MLS Next.” Response: “your stupid”. Thanks for responding coach.
I wasn’t able to find league charter but I can’t help think SYC goes back down to only 2 MLS Next teams. I’m sure the leadership would be okay with that. At least it’s become more clear to see DS’s path.
Because you don't understand why the older teams are not performing well while the younger teams are doing fine.
Did you honestly believe that simply swapping a CCL patch for a MLSNext patch suddenly made the same SYC team better?
Are you really this stupid?
Anonymous
11/30/2021 10:00
Subject: SYC social media
“Look at this information that shows SYC isn’t good enough to be in MLS Next.” Response: “your stupid”. Thanks for responding coach.
I wasn’t able to find league charter but I can’t help think SYC goes back down to only 2 MLS Next teams. I’m sure the leadership would be okay with that. At least it’s become more clear to see DS’s path.
I wasn’t able to find league charter but I can’t help think SYC goes back down to only 2 MLS Next teams. I’m sure the leadership would be okay with that. At least it’s become more clear to see DS’s path.
Anonymous
11/29/2021 20:00
Subject: Re:SYC social media
What club doesn't recruit if given the chance? Are you saying Arlington will deny a talented player because they were developed at another club? Why should SYC deny a player who wants to join the club?
Anonymous
11/29/2021 18:51
Subject: SYC social media
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS is in SYC’s MLS Next and I see a worrying trend. The U13 & U14 are the only MLS Next teams, U15 and up are the “Inter League” teams. I do not really have an opinion on standings, but I do see an overall direction. The older a SYC boys team gets, the less they score and the more they get scored on. Is their a league charter or agreement, specifically a relegation or competition clause? I’m worried about 2022/2023 season with SYC being in MLS Next. We didn’t receive an invite from DC United, but we are considering Alexandria’s MLS Next or Arlington’s ECNL.
U13: 10 games played, 23 goals scored (+8 GD)
U14: 10 games played, 19 goals scored (+4 GD)
U15: 10 games played, 15 goals scored (-5 GD)
U16: 8 games played, 6 goals scored (-16 GD)
U17: 9 games played, 3 goals scored (-17 GD)
U19: 8 games played, 3 goals scored (-18 GD)
55 games played for all SYC teams, 69 goals scored, -44 GD
1.25 goals a game
Just pay attention to your kids age group. Older age groups do not represent any trend for your younger kid. People have pointed out valid reasons for older teams to struggle but you have already made up your mind so won't listen.
Thank you for your input. As puberty solidifies, the results get worse. Yes, you can see an overall trend. Not specific as to why they perform worse, but they do. Development is constant. Perhaps, the development for SYC stops around U14
No, you can't see a trend because SYC kids who wanted to play in higher leagues, IS DA or ECNL left years ago. Those older age groups represent SYC after players left years ago to play in the top leagues.
With SYC now having MLS Next it should serve to retain players who otherwise would have left.
Again, you won't listen.
And why would the younger players stay if older teams fall apart? You’re not making an argument, nor refuting mine.
It’s ok, your stupid.
The talent of those older teams left years ago.
Try and understand.
My stupid what? You stopped for some weird reason
Perhaps because you are stupid, which strikes me as a logical reason to stop, especially for you.