Anonymous wrote:I tested at 160+ IQ as a kid and was put into a special magnet school and summer programs like CTY.

I think the sweet spot for "professional success" is around 130. 150+ and you have lots of existential depression. It's hard to conform to mainstream society when you can't relate to 99 out of 100 people you interact with on a daily basis.

Giftedness often manifests as boredom (and bad grades). Prior to my getting tested I had failed out of 2 schools because I was so bored I refused to do any work. That was a pretty typical background story for most of my peers in the magnet programs as well.

I'm a high 140s/CTY person and totally agree that the sweet spot is 130. They are smarter than most people so they feel that confidence, but school isn't effortless so they learn how to work hard. They also come off as very normal, just bright, so they get along with most people. (There is also this "communication range" of 30 IQ points, beyond which you cant understand each other, and people in th 130s can this get along with both average people and 170 people. I feel like most doctors, law partners etc I know are in the 130s and just killing it at life.

I similarly didn't learn how to work hard until well into my 20s. I do feel like I've been lucky in friendship and love and have found people at a similar range and treasure them.

As a teacher, I would suggest OP talk to child and find out if the boredom is in every class or just certain classes. Then work with your child and teacher to come up with a plan that would be more meeting the child's needs. The teacher will need to suggest an alternative. Looking for solutions starts with your child and each individual teacher. Good luck.

I tested at 160+ IQ as a kid and was put into a special magnet school and summer programs like CTY.

I think the sweet spot for "professional success" is around 130. 150+ and you have lots of existential depression. It's hard to conform to mainstream society when you can't relate to 99 out of 100 people you interact with on a daily basis.

Giftedness often manifests as boredom (and bad grades). Prior to my getting tested I had failed out of 2 schools because I was so bored I refused to do any work. That was a pretty typical background story for most of my peers in the magnet programs as well.

I can imagine that it must be frustrating for you as a parent to see your child be bored. If rankings aren't so important to you, have you considered sending your child to a newer school like The Sojourner Truth School which is a public Montessori middle school that will grow to a high school next year or letting him do an online homeschooling program? Our daughter is at Truth and loves it. Perhaps he'd enjoy being in an environment where he can create his own path of study within a guided framework?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

Why would you measure your life by job success?

Because you spend most of you life at your job. Unless you were born wealthy and have access to that wealth, having a entry level job will not enable you to have the best experiences in life.
And also that is the only think I can see IQ reasonably helping with, entry into a top college, then a top position. Perhaps they may invent something but it will be at a job, not in their basement.

Being the number 1 middle school in DC doesn't mean much when by and large, majority of middle schools are pretty terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you sent your kid to a MS with weak facilities, enrichment and extra curriculars and teachers and staff who aren't paid well enough to stick around for many years.

If he were at a MS in Fairfax or maybe MoCo or Arlington, he'd have a good library and computer lab to haunt in search of inspiration. He's probably have access to a robotics lab, band and orchestra sessions during class time, a serious chess club, debate club, a range of languages to choose from, school musicals to get involved with etc. His teachers and school counselor would probably be more experienced than at BASIS.

BASIS was too short on fun, staff cohesion and inspiration for us. I'm an MIT grad who works in STEM.

Obviously, you don't know much about Basis DC, Mr/Ms. MIT grad who works in STEM. Maybe in your day kids hung out in the library and computer lab, but I don't think that this is a "thing" nowadays. Moreover, kids in DC can walk to libraries and--breaking news--many even have their own computers. Maybe not where you live? In fact, Basis kids on Capitol Hill can stroll over to the Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, and use that if they wish.

Here is a link if people are interested about activities at Basis:

https://www.basised.com/washington-dc/files/2021/01/dc-tour-kit.pdf

One update from the above: USN&WR recently ranked Basis DC the number #1 public middle school in DC.

His statement that BASIS doesn't have a library or computer lab is factually correct. His statement that BASIS has high staff turnover, coupled with low pay, as compared to high-performing suburban middle schools in this Metro area is also factually correct. He's 2-2. Your activities list sounds great, but BASIS DC can only run so many high quality activities with the facilities and resources available to it (shoe-string budget for extra-curriculars).
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#1 MS public MS in DC obviously isn't a high bar to clear. That's why the award goes to a school with a crappy building, mediocre ELA scores and so-so college acceptances, other than for a handful of grads bound for MIT and one or two Ivies.

So, you concede that everything else was factually incorrect? Great.

In fact, Basis DC had significantly higher retention last year than DCPS as a whole this last year. So, that point is factually incorrect as well.

Comparing DCPS to other school districts is apples and oranges.

Sorry...what were you saying...oh, that's right....you don't have any kids in DCPS but you are posting on the DC schools forum.

Thanks for sharing. Now get lost.

NP here who does not have nearly the emotional investment you have in this argument, but I do work for DCPS and the retention rate is horrible. Saying Basis has a better teacher retention rate than DCPS does not make Basis sound great. DCPS middle schools are awful to work at in general. And Basis does have a high turnover rate. It is a function of the school building, charter salary and kill-and-drill methods.

Yes, it does, and if your kid attends for a number of years, this becomes painfully obvious. From my perspective, kill and drill methods aren't the problem as much as the one-size-fits-all curriculum, which doesn't play to most of the middle school students' strengths. Electives are weak at BASIS and the cramped facility coupled with short recess and lack of outdoor space motivates too many of the middle school boys to climb the walls. It's just not a healthy arrangement for pre teens and teens, though some manage to thrive anyway.

I am PP and totally agree. I think the drill and kill methods causes some teachers to leave. They are asked to do a lot there.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you sent your kid to a MS with weak facilities, enrichment and extra curriculars and teachers and staff who aren't paid well enough to stick around for many years.

If he were at a MS in Fairfax or maybe MoCo or Arlington, he'd have a good library and computer lab to haunt in search of inspiration. He's probably have access to a robotics lab, band and orchestra sessions during class time, a serious chess club, debate club, a range of languages to choose from, school musicals to get involved with etc. His teachers and school counselor would probably be more experienced than at BASIS.

BASIS was too short on fun, staff cohesion and inspiration for us. I'm an MIT grad who works in STEM.

Obviously, you don't know much about Basis DC, Mr/Ms. MIT grad who works in STEM. Maybe in your day kids hung out in the library and computer lab, but I don't think that this is a "thing" nowadays. Moreover, kids in DC can walk to libraries and--breaking news--many even have their own computers. Maybe not where you live? In fact, Basis kids on Capitol Hill can stroll over to the Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, and use that if they wish.

Here is a link if people are interested about activities at Basis:

https://www.basised.com/washington-dc/files/2021/01/dc-tour-kit.pdf

One update from the above: USN&WR recently ranked Basis DC the number #1 public middle school in DC.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Another powerful critique from the anti-BASIS crowd...

let’s be real. Basis paid its way to be number one on the list. And that list is fake. Everyone knows it.
I’m not anti-basis. I don’t even care enough about it to look it up. That’s how little interest I have in the school. Can you imagine? A dc parent who has zero interest in the USN and WR “number one school”? Charters aren’t for me but I wish your children ALL the best- seriously.

Yet you care enough to post here.

Because I’m a TROLLLLLLLLLLLLL. I looooooove trolling on losersssss

Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

Why would you measure your life by job success?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

IQ correlates with success but doesn’t dictate it.

No it doesn’t. A lot of people w high IQs are depressed, mentally unstable

A. Lot. Or just plain unpleasant to be around.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

The point is that OP seems to think her kid is bored because he's a genius who is far beyond the other kids and well above grade level in everything. That is almost certainly not the case. Her kid is bored because he became addicted to electronics, or he isn't that interested in learning, or he's depressed, or he's struggling with sitting at a desk all day. It isn't because he's too advanced for BASIS.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

IQ correlates with success but doesn’t dictate it.

No it doesn’t. A lot of people w high IQs are depressed, mentally unstable

You don't understand what correlation means.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you sent your kid to a MS with weak facilities, enrichment and extra curriculars and teachers and staff who aren't paid well enough to stick around for many years.

If he were at a MS in Fairfax or maybe MoCo or Arlington, he'd have a good library and computer lab to haunt in search of inspiration. He's probably have access to a robotics lab, band and orchestra sessions during class time, a serious chess club, debate club, a range of languages to choose from, school musicals to get involved with etc. His teachers and school counselor would probably be more experienced than at BASIS.

BASIS was too short on fun, staff cohesion and inspiration for us. I'm an MIT grad who works in STEM.

Obviously, you don't know much about Basis DC, Mr/Ms. MIT grad who works in STEM. Maybe in your day kids hung out in the library and computer lab, but I don't think that this is a "thing" nowadays. Moreover, kids in DC can walk to libraries and--breaking news--many even have their own computers. Maybe not where you live? In fact, Basis kids on Capitol Hill can stroll over to the Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, and use that if they wish.

Here is a link if people are interested about activities at Basis:

https://www.basised.com/washington-dc/files/2021/01/dc-tour-kit.pdf

One update from the above: USN&WR recently ranked Basis DC the number #1 public middle school in DC.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Another powerful critique from the anti-BASIS crowd...

let’s be real. Basis paid its way to be number one on the list. And that list is fake. Everyone knows it.
I’m not anti-basis. I don’t even care enough about it to look it up. That’s how little interest I have in the school. Can you imagine? A dc parent who has zero interest in the USN and WR “number one school”? Charters aren’t for me but I wish your children ALL the best- seriously.

Yet you care enough to post here.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you sent your kid to a MS with weak facilities, enrichment and extra curriculars and teachers and staff who aren't paid well enough to stick around for many years.

If he were at a MS in Fairfax or maybe MoCo or Arlington, he'd have a good library and computer lab to haunt in search of inspiration. He's probably have access to a robotics lab, band and orchestra sessions during class time, a serious chess club, debate club, a range of languages to choose from, school musicals to get involved with etc. His teachers and school counselor would probably be more experienced than at BASIS.

BASIS was too short on fun, staff cohesion and inspiration for us. I'm an MIT grad who works in STEM.

Obviously, you don't know much about Basis DC, Mr/Ms. MIT grad who works in STEM. Maybe in your day kids hung out in the library and computer lab, but I don't think that this is a "thing" nowadays. Moreover, kids in DC can walk to libraries and--breaking news--many even have their own computers. Maybe not where you live? In fact, Basis kids on Capitol Hill can stroll over to the Library of Congress, the largest library in the world, and use that if they wish.

Here is a link if people are interested about activities at Basis:

https://www.basised.com/washington-dc/files/2021/01/dc-tour-kit.pdf

One update from the above: USN&WR recently ranked Basis DC the number #1 public middle school in DC.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Another powerful critique from the anti-BASIS crowd...

let’s be real. Basis paid its way to be number one on the list. And that list is fake. Everyone knows it.
I’m not anti-basis. I don’t even care enough about it to look it up. That’s how little interest I have in the school. Can you imagine? A dc parent who has zero interest in the USN and WR “number one school”? Charters aren’t for me but I wish your children ALL the best- seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people care about IQ? It has no basis in success, unless your child is significantly below average but then again, that can be ascertained without an IQ test. Having significantly above doesn’t secure you a wonderful job that you love either. Bragging rights?

IQ correlates with success but doesn’t dictate it.

No it doesn’t. A lot of people w high IQs are depressed, mentally unstable