Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:10     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Golden showers. I've been told that's a republican thing now, yes?
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:09     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.


I don’t understand what illiberal left means. It was in a news article today and I also didn’t understand it then.


Listen to Bari Weiss’s podcast. Or there was an economist issue on the illiberal left. It’s basically “agree with me or I accuse you of racism and try to get you fired or harmed in some way”


Ahh ok thanks! I am paywalled from the economist - I wish I could read that! But I hate those people too! I flagged what I think is a similar idea in an NYT article recently:
Wokeness Is Oversimplifying the American Creed
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:09     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was the only candidate not to embrace a man who wore blackface and a KKK costume.


Do you think kids from the 90s who wore paper bag headdresses with colorful construction paper feathers and danced around to fake Native American dances should be cancelled? Because I've got K-grade 5 worth of class photos of this practice and names I can provide along with mine for cancelling.

You can't be for cancelling one and not the other.

The best part of growing older is growing wiser through constant learning.

I cringe now when I see a photo of me dressed like a Native American for the school assembly. I had forgotten all about those classroom activities until about 3 years ago when I saw a photo at my parent's house while my mom was reorganizing. We did stupid things years ago. We had no idea what cultural appropriation was, we used the r word for everything along with the f gay slur, we also said that everything was "gay", and I remember a trend in college where people said the word n-i-k-k-a in place of the n word. But we grew up and we learned that those things were wrong, we learned why they were wrong, and we stopped doing them.


You were what on elementary school or middle school. Northam was an adult in med school. He should have done better.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:07     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


This is not a joke or brush-off or gotcha. If you're genuinely interested in better understanding of the moderate, right-of-center mentality, read Ross Douthat's column in the NYT.


I'd recommend the Commentary Magazine podcast, Three Martini Lunch podcast or Ruthless podcast - none of them are fans of Trump and bash crazy republicans, and generally call balls and strikes. I also listen to Breaking Points podcast to get an alternative view of the issues without the bias and sneering.


I'll give it all a read/listen.

What I'm seeing is a lot of education points, so maybe that's where the disconnect is because I don't have any kids. I've been learning what all these acronyms mean, though... VPMI, G&T, VDOE, TJ, etc.


This might come as a shock to you, but not having kids doesn't mean you can ignore education. The children in your community will be adults someday. Do you want functioning adults or government welfare addicts?
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:06     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


I think getting rid of G&T and advanced math track in the name of equity was liberal and unpopular.


This is critical for many parents. I still voted for McAuliffe, but I'm not happy about the changes to math, and other parents are upset about TJ admission changes.


You’re quoting me and I voted D but not thrilled about the math thing particularly and I found the Ds disingenuous when they said it wasn’t happening. I think it was being considered and they only scrapped it when it was publicized and people were mad.



Sigh.

From the very start, VMPI always said that students would still be able to take AP/IB -- which inherently requires an accelerated math path.

They spent a short amount of time during one info session discussing tracking. They also had a link or two that discussed tracking under "additional resources" section of the website. They never included tracking as a bullet point item or on the infographic. It was truly a minor discussion point that was floated around (and quickly sunk).

It was all very early in the process.

Stop acting like it was "happening".

Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:04     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Own the libs? Is that the right answer?


Off topic, but many of the Arlington road medians are lined with Youngkin signs today.

It is a total in your face to Arlington liberals. I am an Arlington Dem and voted straight party ticket, but my neighborhood is filled with insufferable liberals, and I hope they gag at every Youngkin sign they see.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:02     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Voted democratic in last 2 general elections and don’t regularly vote in state/local elections. Then COVID hit. I watched the VA Democratic Governor set restrictions that were far more conservative than my family living in other states. When the kids didn’t go back to school in August 2020, I felt compelled to vote against a liberal agenda that was way too cautious and restrictive on return to school. So I voted for Youngkin.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:02     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


This is not a joke or brush-off or gotcha. If you're genuinely interested in better understanding of the moderate, right-of-center mentality, read Ross Douthat's column in the NYT.


I'd recommend the Commentary Magazine podcast, Three Martini Lunch podcast or Ruthless podcast - none of them are fans of Trump and bash crazy republicans, and generally call balls and strikes. I also listen to Breaking Points podcast to get an alternative view of the issues without the bias and sneering.


I'll give it all a read/listen.

What I'm seeing is a lot of education points, so maybe that's where the disconnect is because I don't have any kids. I've been learning what all these acronyms mean, though... VPMI, G&T, VDOE, TJ, etc.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:01     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Fleece vests
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:01     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.


I don’t understand what illiberal left means. It was in a news article today and I also didn’t understand it then.



Then you’re simply not very bright. I don’t know what you want us to tell you.


If *I* don’t know - you’ve got a problem with many others understanding as well. I’m not the least educated person. If you know - you should be able to explain it to me like I’m 5. That’s the true barometer of understanding. And I would never shame someone for asking a question. You learn something new every day and appreciating and recognizing that is how to cultivate a true love of learning.

Your response says more about you than it does about me not being bright.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 17:00     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t defend black face.


But I bet he defends the orange face old fat incompetent guy.


He was very kind to Tim Kaine.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:59     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.


I don’t understand what illiberal left means. It was in a news article today and I also didn’t understand it then.


Listen to Bari Weiss’s podcast. Or there was an economist issue on the illiberal left. It’s basically “agree with me or I accuse you of racism and try to get you fired or harmed in some way”
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:58     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


This is not a joke or brush-off or gotcha. If you're genuinely interested in better understanding of the moderate, right-of-center mentality, read Ross Douthat's column in the NYT.


I'd recommend the Commentary Magazine podcast, Three Martini Lunch podcast or Ruthless podcast - none of them are fans of Trump and bash crazy republicans, and generally call balls and strikes. I also listen to Breaking Points podcast to get an alternative view of the issues without the bias and sneering.


I would add Potomac Watch podcast by the WSJ to that list as well.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:58     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was the only candidate not to embrace a man who wore blackface and a KKK costume.


Do you think kids from the 90s who wore paper bag headdresses with colorful construction paper feathers and danced around to fake Native American dances should be cancelled? Because I've got K-grade 5 worth of class photos of this practice and names I can provide along with mine for cancelling.

You can't be for cancelling one and not the other.

The best part of growing older is growing wiser through constant learning.

I cringe now when I see a photo of me dressed like a Native American for the school assembly. I had forgotten all about those classroom activities until about 3 years ago when I saw a photo at my parent's house while my mom was reorganizing. We did stupid things years ago. We had no idea what cultural appropriation was, we used the r word for everything along with the f gay slur, we also said that everything was "gay", and I remember a trend in college where people said the word n-i-k-k-a in place of the n word. But we grew up and we learned that those things were wrong, we learned why they were wrong, and we stopped doing them.


Great story here, but read pp again. You can cancel whoever you want. You are just one person with an opinion.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:57     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Education.

Fairfax County School Board is going to do what it always does, and move as far left as it can. We need someone at the state level to put some limits on them. Maybe between the two we can land somewhere in the middle.


My reason as well. FCPS School Board is a disgrace and this was the earliest opportunity to register disappointment with their incompetence and hypocrisy.