Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All/most of the comments bashing UVA are from the same poster. The comments are of the same flavor, repeated over and over again. The poster starts and visits multiple ranking posts with the goal to bash UVA. Sometimes, they just respond “UVA” to a post on overrated schools (a thread they start). In other cases, they overstate the situation. Like on this thread, they keep repeating that “UVA is dead last.” It’s pretty specific language and wrong. When did placing 30 on a list of 4000 four-year schools make one “dead last”? They also consistently trot out the notion that UVA is Old South, racist, and a good-old-boy network. Not true. To have such a compulsion to hate the school, the poster obviously has an axe to grind.
Just looked at the rest of the "feeder" lists on the site linked to by OP.
Turns out UVA's #30 spot for Wall Street is its high-water mark. Completely missing from lists like tech and engineering. And amazingly doesn't show up on ANY OF THE MANY per capita lists for careers or grad/professional schools.
What exactly does a UVA grad do other than hang out on DCUM?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
So much for Columbia haters who say it couldn’t possibly be #2 in the nation. It’s the only school that’s #2 on Wall Street and #5 in tech.
NYU is better represented than Columbia in finance
NYU is over two times the size of Columbia. Columbia has better placement.
Ehh ok. I've seen more NYU kids at high-end buyside jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolute numbers are more important than per capita for these types of listings. For a huge diverse university like Michigan which is so strong in so many disciplines, it will never make a top showing in per capita lists for Wall Street. Yet it is one of the big target feeder schools.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
This is from the same source as the OP
Okay but what are YOUR DCs chances at investment banking from Umich? These schools are large so they send a lot of students but they don't have a high PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE. Thats more important than the entire schools stats.
A very small fraction of Michigan students are interested in investment banking. This is a much smaller percentage than most elite private schools. Those that are, are overwhelmingly enrolled in the Ross school. Ross has about 500 students per class with about 1,500 undergraduates enrolled for the three year program. The entire university has over 30,000 undergraduates. Smaller elite private schools on this list have a much higher percentage of their student body gunning for this one particular area.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This has little to do with the college and everything to do with the background of the kids. The overwhelming majority of the undergrads heading into banking have family already in banking; from dads to older brothers to uncles or grandpa. I'd estimate 75% are already connected, 20% are cute elbowy gals with at least a 3.5 GPA, and 5% are URMs with at least a 3.3 GPA.
I bet this list would barely change if you sorted for New England and Tri-State private prep school alums per capita.
Most ORMs at Feeders that go into IB or S&T don’t have banking parents.
There's much more to Wall Street/finance than IB or S&T.
The other poster is correct. So many kids going into Wall Street in some capacity have families who have a history of working on Wall Street or in financial roles. It's not restricted to the Ivies but it's also why you see plenty of kids from LACs heading to New York to work in finance/banking/consulting. Because their fathers worked in finance.
It's not a bad career track because it delivers plenty of rewards. Even if you end up leaving NYC or never going to NYC and working in finance in other cities. It's a great way to get into the six figure income track pretty early on and have a comfortable life. And that's why the fathers (and now mothers) increasingly direct their kids onto similar tracks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CMC and Washington are Lee is a bit surprising. Does DC even know what W&L is?
And UVA is dead last?
This is a per Capita list so it controls for school population size. Notice how no other public schools made the list.
UVA is DFL. No excuses.
But the other public didn't make the list at all. UVA is the best public school for Wallstreet placement. That's shocking when Umich, UCLA, UCB exist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
So much for Columbia haters who say it couldn’t possibly be #2 in the nation. It’s the only school that’s #2 on Wall Street and #5 in tech.
NYU is better represented than Columbia in finance
NYU is over two times the size of Columbia. Columbia has better placement.
Ehh ok. I've seen more NYU kids at high-end buyside jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
So much for Columbia haters who say it couldn’t possibly be #2 in the nation. It’s the only school that’s #2 on Wall Street and #5 in tech.
NYU is better represented than Columbia in finance
NYU is over two times the size of Columbia. Columbia has better placement.
Ehh ok. I've seen more NYU kids at high-end buyside jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Stanford and MIT in Silicon Valley are # 7 and 17 respectively. They don’t do that well in their own backyard.
Sorry, the link is here:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
You saw the overall list, scroll down to see the per Capita list, there Stanford and MIT are 2nd and 6th respectively.
Top Feeder Rankings TECH (adjusted for undergraduate enrollment)
1 Carnegie Mellon University
2 Stanford University
3 California Institute of Technology
4 Harvey Mudd College
5 Columbia University
6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7 Georgia Institute of Technology
8 University of Southern California
9 Rice University
10 Duke University
What happened to HYP? Where are all those HYP grads going to if their alma maters are not top feeders to tech or Wall Street?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
So much for Columbia haters who say it couldn’t possibly be #2 in the nation. It’s the only school that’s #2 on Wall Street and #5 in tech.
NYU is better represented than Columbia in finance
NYU is over two times the size of Columbia. Columbia has better placement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolute numbers are more important than per capita for these types of listings. For a huge diverse university like Michigan which is so strong in so many disciplines, it will never make a top showing in per capita lists for Wall Street. Yet it is one of the big target feeder schools.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
This is from the same source as the OP
Okay but what are YOUR DCs chances at investment banking from Umich? These schools are large so they send a lot of students but they don't have a high PLACEMENT PERCENTAGE. Thats more important than the entire schools stats.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CMC and Washington are Lee is a bit surprising. Does DC even know what W&L is?
And UVA is dead last?
This is a per Capita list so it controls for school population size. Notice how no other public schools made the list.
UVA is DFL. No excuses.
But the other public didn't make the list at all. UVA is the best public school for Wallstreet placement. That's shocking when Umich, UCLA, UCB exist.
For state universities, Berkeley, Michigan, and Texas ALL SEND MORE grads to Wall Street than UVA. And UVA is a couple thousand miles closer. These schools also send big time to Big Tech.
More overall and a higher percentage is a different thing. Schools like UT benefit from being gigantic. And most males at those schools are aiming for IB or FAANG so they have a ton of applications out of those schools. If you want you child to make big bucks as an analyst they have a better chance at UVA or one of the privates listed.
The lesson from this list is UVA is last place for Wall Street, and doesn't even show for tech. Good if you're paying in state tuition for your kid to get drunk a few times a week and relive the old South, but don't expect a big reward at the end. Not happening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What happened to HYPSM?
Right lol. But I think Stanford and MIT students focus mainly on tech.
More of a knock against Yale and Princeton. We all know that Stanford and MIT dominate tech, so we have an impression that HYP would be the top Wall Street feeders. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
So much for Columbia haters who say it couldn’t possibly be #2 in the nation. It’s the only school that’s #2 on Wall Street and #5 in tech.
NYU is better represented than Columbia in finance
Anonymous wrote:Absolute numbers are more important than per capita for these types of listings. For a huge diverse university like Michigan which is so strong in so many disciplines, it will never make a top showing in per capita lists for Wall Street. Yet it is one of the big target feeder schools.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
This is from the same source as the OP