Anonymous
04/14/2022 23:50
Subject: Re:Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids need a lot more support after the last 18 months. Many have experienced serious long-term trauma (abuse, death of loved ones, etc). Sadly these incidents are not surprising. I hope the teacher will be okay. They are on the receiving end of so much mistreatment, just like flight attendants, nurses, etc.
Ok but fk you and your kid and anyone else who condones this because of last 18 months.
This post is out of line. PP didn't condone anything of the sort.
Mmkay. Substitute “condone” with “make excuses for” then if you prefer. The point still stands.
No excuse made. The reality is a lot of kids are really, really messed up right now. Society needs to be prepared for an increase in violent school incidents and address things accordingly to prevent them as much as possible. I don’t see you offering any solutions to actually combat the problem. Prevention is key. There were multiple incidents of violence in high schools in Maryland today. It’s widespread.
And you’re still doing it.
Newsflash: I don’t need to have a “solution.” Millions of kids came back to school after distance learning without turning into feral, aggressive wild animals.
For the ones who didn’t? Not my responsibility, not the school’s responsibility — the near adult high school student and their parents’ responsibility.
The “solution” is if you physically attack a teacher, charges are pressed, you go to juvie or jail, as age applicable, and you are no longer welcomed at school to endanger others. Here’s some info on alternative school for behavioral issues or GED classes.
Next!
It’s almost as though you don’t care how these violent occurrences will affect other students, teachers, and administrators on a daily basis. Just because it’s not everyone’s direct responsibility doesn’t mean it won’t have a negative impact on those experiencing it, including bystanders.
Teacher here. I’ve worked in poor and suburban schools where fights is child’s play.
Very simple: child or not I dont give a flying fack. When my integrity is compromised I will defend myself with anything and everything. That includes chokeholds to put a student to sleep or a good old knuckle sandwich to the mouth. Either way I’m not going home maimed or disabled. I have a family. And even if I didn’t have one I’d still act the same way.
You shouldn’t be a teacher. No good teacher has this cross their mind
Sorry but you are irrational; given the frequency of violence on school campuses nationwide, it is irrational for anyone to expect good teachers to walk around with their heads in the clouds and not being alert to the fact that they could be violently attacked by a student at some point - if not facing one down the barrel of a gun.
Very good teachers who love teaching and mentoring kids can still have realistic awareness that students can also pose serious threats to them. I wouldn’t want my kids in classrooms with Pollyannas who haven’t considered how they might protect themselves and other students from a student’s violence.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 23:43
Subject: Re:Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids need a lot more support after the last 18 months. Many have experienced serious long-term trauma (abuse, death of loved ones, etc). Sadly these incidents are not surprising. I hope the teacher will be okay. They are on the receiving end of so much mistreatment, just like flight attendants, nurses, etc.
hopefully he'll get that in prison
+1 His initial action (slapping the teacher's laptop) was wrong but then to physically assault him moved outside of childish behavior and into criminal behavior. He is a danger to society and needs the time out that being in prison will provide. I don't want people like that walking around in public and his "long-term trauma" is nothing compared to what others have experienced in Afghanistan, Egypt, Korea, South Africa, etc. So if he expects me to cry for him then he will be waiting a long, long time.
His actions were abhorrent but neuroscience has clearly established that the frontal lobe and mature impulse control do not fully develop until mid to late 20s so it is a little unreasonable to expect the kid to act like an adult - even the adult lost his cool, after all!
This is why we have a juvenile court so rehabilitative programming can hopefully rescue this idiot kid before he ruins his whole life by ‘acting out.’
I feel bad for all the kids, and all the teachers. It’s been a hellish few years.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 23:31
Subject: Re:Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
[quote=Anonymous]The full story, from what I've heard, is the teacher was upset because the student had called him 'buddy' trying to belittle the adult as if he were talking to a fellow classmate. Apparently, the teacher told the student that "Someone will get you for the way you talk to people" To which the student replied "Who? You?" In an attempt to push the teachers' buttons. Then the two began insulting each other. As the student got up with his backpack and started heading towards the door as seen in the video, the teacher made a comment about him 'running away'. Then the student (Who has an I.E.P, and reportedly has A.D.H.D, O.D.D & Bipolar disorder) Grabs the computer, (Which breaking things is a common in children & teens who suffer from chemical imbalances in areas of the brain, where trying to control impulsive behavior is difficult) The student was not in the right. But neither was the teacher. From the information that I have, the teacher works/worked with children with I.E.P.'s, he's gone through training for de-escalating situations just like this. I've worked with many children that suffer from mental illnesses, troubled teens, and adults.
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Where do you think most mental illness originats?
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Where do you think most mental illness originats?
Anonymous
04/14/2022 23:27
Subject: Re:Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
The full story, from what I've heard, is the teacher was upset because the student had called him 'buddy' trying to belittle the adult as if he were talking to a fellow classmate. Apparently, the teacher told the student that "Someone will get you for the way you talk to people" To which the student replied "Who? You?" In an attempt to push the teachers' buttons. Then the two began insulting each other. As the student got up with his backpack and started heading towards the door as seen in the video, the teacher made a comment about him 'running away'. Then the student (Who has an I.E.P, and reportedly has A.D.H.D, O.D.D & Bipolar disorder) Grabs the computer, (Which breaking things is a common in children & teens who suffer from chemical imbalances in areas of the brain, where trying to control impulsive behavior is difficult) The student was not in the right. But neither was the teacher. From the information that I have, the teacher works/worked with children with I.E.P.'s, he's gone through training for de-escalating situations just like this. I've worked with many children that suffer from mental illnesses, troubled teens, and adults.
Anonymous
10/12/2021 19:12
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Student to blame.
Anonymous
10/10/2021 07:59
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bring back the police officers. Take these kids straight to jail. Or throw them in the dumpster like the trash that they are.
Loudoun County schools still have SRO.
However, it takes them being called to the incident for them to intervene.
This teacher is 100% going to get fired, according to my LCPS teacher friends.
No use talking with the close-minded "SRO or Bust" parents. They genuinely believe that one person has the power to solve any and all issue before they occur.
I'm not "SRO or bust" but I've read studies and most students feel safer with an SRO on campus. And whatever the new plan is, it's obviously not working because things have very obviously gotten worse this school year.
PP again. What I mean is, I'm open to learning more and hearing other views but based on my reading, the pros seem to outweigh the cons.
What pros? SROs haven't stopped a single active school shooter and most shootings often happen off campus now. Just because kids "feel" safer doesn't mean they actually are safer
https://news.yahoo.com/mom-takes-action-her-5-200004843.html
I’m a teacher, and I want them back. People don’t know the all of the horrible things some kids endure in the community. Having an SRO at school is really helpful for those moments, when that stuff comes to light. I also think their presence has a positive impact on student behavior, which all of my colleagues are complaining about right now, but don’t seem to get the connection. They’re all falling all over themselves to prove how anti-racist they are (students and parents, too, for that matter) by demanding that they’re pulled out. This doesn’t solve George Floyd. I’d never dare say it to them, though- they’d jump all over me. But removing the SRO’s was so dumb. As far as active shooters go- yeah, I’d like them there. They’re trained and they have a gun. That article means nothing to me. SRO’s have also been helpful in these incidents. We could go back and forth with that. Would like to err on the side of safety.
https://www.police1.com/active-shooter/articles/armed-sro-stopped-md-school-shooting-2-students-shot-BvrrqaXiOdlQlnqq/
Anonymous
10/07/2021 10:03
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bring back the police officers. Take these kids straight to jail. Or throw them in the dumpster like the trash that they are.
Loudoun County schools still have SRO.
However, it takes them being called to the incident for them to intervene.
This teacher is 100% going to get fired, according to my LCPS teacher friends.
No use talking with the close-minded "SRO or Bust" parents. They genuinely believe that one person has the power to solve any and all issue before they occur.
I'm not "SRO or bust" but I've read studies and most students feel safer with an SRO on campus. And whatever the new plan is, it's obviously not working because things have very obviously gotten worse this school year.
PP again. What I mean is, I'm open to learning more and hearing other views but based on my reading, the pros seem to outweigh the cons.
What pros? SROs haven't stopped a single active school shooter and most shootings often happen off campus now. Just because kids "feel" safer doesn't mean they actually are safer.
https://news.yahoo.com/mom-takes-action-her-5-200004843.html
Anonymous
10/06/2021 18:49
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bring back the police officers. Take these kids straight to jail. Or throw them in the dumpster like the trash that they are.
Loudoun County schools still have SRO.
However, it takes them being called to the incident for them to intervene.
This teacher is 100% going to get fired, according to my LCPS teacher friends.
No use talking with the close-minded "SRO or Bust" parents. They genuinely believe that one person has the power to solve any and all issue before they occur.
I'm not "SRO or bust" but I've read studies and most students feel safer with an SRO on campus. And whatever the new plan is, it's obviously not working because things have very obviously gotten worse this school year.
Same. Our students don’t feel safe with our SRO . It’s a cop.
In my district, most students did NOT feel safer with SROs and actively petition for their removal.
Anonymous
10/06/2021 15:10
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bring back the police officers. Take these kids straight to jail. Or throw them in the dumpster like the trash that they are.
Loudoun County schools still have SRO.
However, it takes them being called to the incident for them to intervene.
This teacher is 100% going to get fired, according to my LCPS teacher friends.
No use talking with the close-minded "SRO or Bust" parents. They genuinely believe that one person has the power to solve any and all issue before they occur.
I'm not "SRO or bust" but I've read studies and most students feel safer with an SRO on campus. And whatever the new plan is, it's obviously not working because things have very obviously gotten worse this school year.
In my district, most students did NOT feel safer with SROs and actively petition for their removal.
Anonymous
10/06/2021 15:00
Subject: Woodgrove HS student physically assaults teacher
Anonymous wrote:People who don’t work in schools don’t understand how incredibly demoralizing the lack of consequences is to staff members. Students can smash a teachers laptop, have items stolen, vandalize bathrooms, punch other students, yell in class, watch loud videos or listen to music on their phones and NOTHING of consequence happens. Students have a restorative justice session whet they just talk about what happened and brainstorm how they won’t do it again.
Parents come in and they think it is funny their kids destroyed property or acted out and that it really wasn’t the students fault. It is heartbreaking to see students who want to learn be terrorized by out of control students.
+1. I hope that student gets criminal charges filed. Teachers have to put up with so much crap and are expected to do nothing. This kids' bad parents yielded a violent child. And there is NOTHING in the past 18 months that would turn a kid violent. If your kid is violent, he has underlying mental health and behavioral issues that preceded COVID. Stop blaming the pandemic for being lazy. My DH survived a civil war - complete with bullets, bombs, political upheaval and a lost childhood. Guess what? He doesn't beat people up becuase he had it rough. Anyone who blames the pandemic for their poor behavior is just a lazy, entitled, brat with bad parents.