Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:41     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:Unless you have bad eyesight, always watch with subtitles instead of dubbing.


Agree, dubbing is so distracting

I'm Korean American. My Korean isn't that great, so I watch it with the subtitles, but I know enough to know that the translation as a whole is terrible. It can change the nuance of the entire dialogue.

Explains it :

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/squid-game-subtitles-tiktok-english-korean-b1930561.html


That's a really interesting article. Thanks.

It sounds like the bad subs are not the English subtitles most of us are seeing, but a different set of English subtitles that are word-for-word the English dubbed dialogue, done to make the words match the mouth movements. Those subs show up in the closed captioning that people use if they're hard of hearing/watching the dubbed version.

Now I'm going to go check my settings on Netflix.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:33     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Honestly I am also shocked people are letting 10 year olds watch this. And I watch a lot of stuff like this. This is really blatant coldly executed violence.

In a marvel movie, it is all so cartoonish, and you rarely see people actually die. In Star Wars exactly the same. This show is extremely coldly realistic in the violence. I was startled by it a few times. Some of it yes can be clearly cartoonish, the organ harvesting I think kind of falls into this category. But watching people running from a mass shooting? I think you people need to remember what these kids have to run drills for at school.

I'm usually pretty 'kids are resilient and need to learn independence and shouldn't be so sheltered' overall as a parent. But I'm also fine sheltering them from repeat close up graphic headshots.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:31     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless you have bad eyesight, always watch with subtitles instead of dubbing.


Agree, dubbing is so distracting

I'm Korean American. My Korean isn't that great, so I watch it with the subtitles, but I know enough to know that the translation as a whole is terrible. It can change the nuance of the entire dialogue.

Explains it :

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/squid-game-subtitles-tiktok-english-korean-b1930561.html


I've read a lot of complaints about Netflix's subtitles. For shows that are also on Viki, I watch there. They are fan subbed and supposed to be much better at conveying nuances and pointing out helpful cultural info.

There is a recent kdrama called Run On, in which the female lead is a subtitler/translator. There is some really interesting dialogue where she talks about the process of how chooses to interpret something and the word choices she makes. In one scene she is writing subtitles for a 20 year old movie because language naturally evolves and the subs need updating.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:27     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless you have bad eyesight, always watch with subtitles instead of dubbing.


Agree, dubbing is so distracting

I'm Korean American. My Korean isn't that great, so I watch it with the subtitles, but I know enough to know that the translation as a whole is terrible. It can change the nuance of the entire dialogue.

Explains it :

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/squid-game-subtitles-tiktok-english-korean-b1930561.html


I saw that Netflix has been updating the subtitles daily based on the feedback.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:26     Subject: Re:Watch Squid Game on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:Can a 10 and 13 year old handle, or for adults only?


Adults only. The first episode does a mass execution style scene. Blood and all.


IMO I would be fine with my 12 year old watching it. It's just entertainment


I watched it with my 10 year old. There is one sex scene that was easy for me to hide from her-- it's pretty obvious it's about to happen so had her turn her back while I fast forwarded.

The violence is fine. While graphic, the circumstances and the way it's done are more shockingly gory than scary or emotional. For the most part.

The really adult aspects of it are just the moral quandaries that kids might find boring or not really get in all their nuance.


+1 It actually created an opportunity for me and DD to discuss human behavior and how money/greed can impact humanity. For the sex scenes, she knows to cover her ears and closed her eyes while I fast-forwarded. She actually approached me about watching the show because of Roblox. The killing etc was so dramatic and unreal, so it was easy for her to separate it from reality.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:21     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless you have bad eyesight, always watch with subtitles instead of dubbing.


Agree, dubbing is so distracting

I'm Korean American. My Korean isn't that great, so I watch it with the subtitles, but I know enough to know that the translation as a whole is terrible. It can change the nuance of the entire dialogue.

Explains it :

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/squid-game-subtitles-tiktok-english-korean-b1930561.html
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:15     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:SPOILER

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I had trouble following the story about the brothers. The older started out as a player, won I guess, then became the henchman? Did I miss anything else? I suppose that thread will be developed in season 2.

This is what I understood as well. Do you think in season 2 the policeman brother will survive the fall?



I hope so! I was really surprised they left that open. I will say that the policeman brother's casting is the only one I don't love. Gorgeous but a bit too young and pretty for that particular role imo.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 14:13     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:SPOILER

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I had trouble following the story about the brothers. The older started out as a player, won I guess, then became the henchman? Did I miss anything else? I suppose that thread will be developed in season 2.

This is what I understood as well. Do you think in season 2 the policeman brother will survive the fall?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 13:22     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
SPOILER

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I had trouble following the story about the brothers. The older started out as a player, won I guess, then became the henchman? Did I miss anything else? I suppose that thread will be developed in season 2.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 13:11     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:My 11 year old wanted to watch. She said everyone at school is watching it. But after reading reviews on Common Sense Media, I decided not to let her. I just hate my kids seeing so many dark things. They’re so young and the world can be bleak or uplifting, depending on what they see.


+1

I don’t want my 10 year old watching this. Anxiety is already running rampant, and I don’t know which images might really disturb her or stick in her mind. She can watch when she’s older if she wants. And I don’t think Star Wars or presidential debates are the same as watching someone close up get shot in the head. Call me old fashioned!


Old fashioned parent here also. My 12 year old daughter told me that some of her friends have watched it, but I honestly don't want her exposed to a show where characters are systematically tortured and killed. Its rated MA for a reason


I don't think you've watched it, so you're judging from misinformation.

(FYI, no torture. That wouldn't even make sense.)


I guess I consider Psychological torture a form of torture, my bad
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 13:02     Subject: Watch Squid Game on Netflix
I watched it with my 14 year old who normally avoids violence, but finds this compelling and thought-provoking. We've had great conversations about ethics vs. morals, wealth inequality, discrimination etc. His 9 year old sister begged to watch with us. Hard no, was told she can watch when she's 14 (if she's even up for it at that age).

I'm not sure whether foreign tv series are eligible for the regular Emmy awards, but I truly hope the series wins the International Emmy for best drama, best actor (the lead), best supporting actor (the old man), best writing and directing, set design etc. Really exceptional tv.

Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 12:12     Subject: Re:Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:The fact that people are letting their 10 year olds watch this show is a sad commentary on our society.[/quote)

Amen. Some real psychos here
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 10:06     Subject: Re:Watch Squid Game on Netflix
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Anonymous wrote:I talked about it with my 11 year old but he hasn’t seen it. With boyhood feeling like it’s going to end any day now, I cherish the innocence he has left! No need to rush it.


+1 Want my 10 year old to hold on to their innocence a bit longer. I figure I have the time to introduce these discussions later..


This is an understandable impulse. Be mindful that the window is probably shorter and earlier than you might think.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 09:42     Subject: Re:Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:I talked about it with my 11 year old but he hasn’t seen it. With boyhood feeling like it’s going to end any day now, I cherish the innocence he has left! No need to rush it.


+1 Want my 10 year old to hold on to their innocence a bit longer. I figure I have the time to introduce these discussions later..
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2021 09:40     Subject: Re:Watch Squid Game on Netflix
Anonymous wrote:The fact that people are letting their 10 year olds watch this show is a sad commentary on our society.


+1 Its crazy, and that makes it harder for the rest of us.

Peer group matters.