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Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

Why is it that you think colleges should be exclusively for academics? I think they should be much more than that, they should be about producing good members of society. Athletics is a part of that.

Academic and athletic skills are, for the most part, god given, and further developed from there. Why do you think that one is more important than the other? Why should we not have both academic and athletic scholarships?

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Anonymous wrote:While not impossible, at a school like UVA it is impossible. But - and if is a big But - an offer that says you keep your GPA above X, and score at least Y on your SAT, I can make up the difference to get you to an instate full ride. It gives kids a good incentive to do well in school. You do not have to load up on APs. You do have to hit the GPA and test score targets. There is no negotiating those. Still, women’s soccer players generally are also very good students.

So what you’re saying is that it’s NOT likely a 100 percent “Athletic” scholarship, correct?

So something like a 80/20 split…with the 20 percent being athletic money to be determined at a much later date, correct.

So you’re disputing its a 100 percent Athletic scholarship.

Trying to help you along…..lol.

There are many reasons why a coach does not disclose what any offer is for a particular player. The coach has to balance the available scholarships trying to keep most everyone happy, or at least be reasonably sure that the coach is being fair based on need and ability. Every player has different financial circumstances. Every player has different academic circumstances. Some will qualify for Pell Grants, and need based scholarships. Some will qualify for merit scholarships. All those things will be pursued by the financial aid folks in the athletic department, and taken into account with offers.

It does very bad things for recruiting. Player X got a full ride. Player Y and her parents think she is in the national team pool, schools are offering 50% or more why not UVA?

It also does terrible things for team morale. Player X has a full ride. Players Y and Z are 50% and they scored 2/3s of the teams goals last year. Player A has anchored a stingy defense for 2 years and is on 1/3 scholarship. Player B is the returning starting center mid on 1/2 scholarship. Think they will be happy?

College is a very different game than club. The players are friendly and supportive in around the field but largely are gone off the field. They have classes and activities that don’t involve players who are not also friends. Freshmen players are often left to themselves - and now someone has done this to ostracize a particular kid from that group.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

I get it. It’s a good utopian sentiment. People should be paid based on their value to society. Teachers, police officers, bus drivers should make more money than tik tok influencers, movie stars, and tennis players. People should be hired based on merit not who they know. College should be tuition free for anyone who wants it not just athletes and really smart kids. Good looking people shouldn’t get all the dates. Sounds like a nice, fair way of life. I wish it worked this way. But, as I explain to my 14 year old who hates unequal treatment for anything, the world isn’t that way right now. But one can dream.

Not the PP - but I think you are mischaracterizing what he is saying.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all so childish. Why can't we all just be happy for this kid. My guess is that she has put in a ton of time and hard work. This NON-FCV parent is happy for you girl!

I also think it is okay to share these big accomplishments on DCUM. I mean, isn't this the type of thing we would all want for our kids?? Go Northern VA! Great school, great player.

It’s a great accomplishment, but I don’t know why we’re supposed to be happier for her than for any of the other kids all over the country who will commit to UVA and other top schools. Am I missing something that makes her story special?

No one suggested you should be happier for this kid than others who will commit to UVA and other top schools. Where are you getting that? We should be just as happy for all of them.

PS just because you say you happy for someone, it doesn't mean your are NOT happy for the others. ie saying black lives matter doesn't mean other lives don't matter. saying I like Florida beaches doesn't mean I don't like Hawaii beaches. I can't believe this stuff needs to be said outside of 4 year olds

Did you seriously just pull the BLM card to booster FCV? Sit the eff down, Karen. Your racism is showing.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

So the reach kid whose parents sent him/her to Khan academy should get the upper hand? Lol…beat it

Nice try at a retort, simple Simon.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

I get it. It’s a good utopian sentiment. People should be paid based on their value to society. Teachers, police officers, bus drivers should make more money than tik tok influencers, movie stars, and tennis players. People should be hired based on merit not who they know. College should be tuition free for anyone who wants it not just athletes and really smart kids. Good looking people shouldn’t get all the dates. Sounds like a nice, fair way of life. I wish it worked this way. But, as I explain to my 14 year old who hates unequal treatment for anything, the world isn’t that way right now. But one can dream.

You took my statement a bit far there now didn’t you? Also, wanting something and knowing what reality is are two different things. Anyhow, congrats to the kid that got a full ride for playing a sport that generates no profit. Whoopie!

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

So the reach kid whose parents sent him/her to Khan academy should get the upper hand? Lol…beat it

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

An institution of higher learning? You mean an over priced sink hole that is now the second largest debt behind homes.

I say get rid of college.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

I agree with this and we should start with High School Sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

I get it. It’s a good utopian sentiment. People should be paid based on their value to society. Teachers, police officers, bus drivers should make more money than tik tok influencers, movie stars, and tennis players. People should be hired based on merit not who they know. College should be tuition free for anyone who wants it not just athletes and really smart kids. Good looking people shouldn’t get all the dates. Sounds like a nice, fair way of life. I wish it worked this way. But, as I explain to my 14 year old who hates unequal treatment for anything, the world isn’t that way right now. But one can dream.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for that kid. Not sure the ROI on others’ tuition and other revenue is there, but hey schools like to overcharge, rack up students’ debt, but give a women’s soccer player a free ride. Super use of funds. Throwing money out the window.

You don’t think and women’s soccer players deserve full rides? Wow, the misogyny lives on in DCurban moms. You are a terrible human being.

I don’t think men’s soccer players deserve full rides either, but nice assumption moron.

You do realize how this works, right? Not all verbal soccer commitments get full rides, right? Actually, it is very rare. Football and basketball are head count sports All of those players on scholarship get full rides. You aren’t against women in sports but you just don’t think the most talented should be rewarded. Just trying to follow.

Let me try to explain. I don’t think universities and colleges should give out scholarships for athletics. Period. I think an institute of higher learning should focus on academics and research and not sports. I think colleges can have volunteer sports activities where they are self funding (revenue pays for expenses, including facilities, equipment, coaching and travel) and any revenue left over is shared with players. Similar to high school. They can get sponsors and do fund raisers too and even have alumni donations, but no school based revenue (tuition, fees, grants, etc.) goes into those programs and no scholarships. While I get that sports creates a nice brand for universities, that’s not what universities should be competing on. They are supposed to be there to teach young adults and get them ready for the real world. That’s not what they’ve become and this over emphasis on college athletics, sports, etc. is not helping.

If your kid is that good they get picked up by a pro or semi pro team, or they play club or college ball for free, or they play for fun. No more free rides because a kid can kick, shoot, hit, dunk, catch, tackle, swim, run fast, etc.

Meant to say Academic money in the 4th line

Anonymous wrote:While not impossible, at a school like UVA it is impossible. But - and if is a big But - an offer that says you keep your GPA above X, and score at least Y on your SAT, I can make up the difference to get you to an instate full ride. It gives kids a good incentive to do well in school. You do not have to load up on APs. You do have to hit the GPA and test score targets. There is no negotiating those. Still, women’s soccer players generally are also very good students.

So what you’re saying is that it’s NOT likely a 100 percent “Athletic” scholarship, correct?

So something like a 80/20 split…with the 20 percent being athletic money to be determined at a much later date, correct.

So you’re disputing its a 100 percent Athletic scholarship.

Trying to help you along…..lol.

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Anonymous wrote:While not impossible, at a school like UVA it is impossible. But - and if is a big But - an offer that says you keep your GPA above X, and score at least Y on your SAT, I can make up the difference to get you to an instate full ride. It gives kids a good incentive to do well in school. You do not have to load up on APs. You do have to hit the GPA and test score targets. There is no negotiating those. Still, women’s soccer players generally are also very good students.

A full ride at UVA for womens soccer is absolutely possible.

Of course it is but not likely.

Anonymous wrote:While not impossible, at a school like UVA it is impossible. But - and if is a big But - an offer that says you keep your GPA above X, and score at least Y on your SAT, I can make up the difference to get you to an instate full ride. It gives kids a good incentive to do well in school. You do not have to load up on APs. You do have to hit the GPA and test score targets. There is no negotiating those. Still, women’s soccer players generally are also very good students.

A full ride at UVA for womens soccer is absolutely possible.