Anonymous wrote:Does he need to be court-martialed? I don't know. But I do know that I'm glad he did what he did.

What you people fail to acknowledge or accept is that Trump was so unstable that this needed to be done.

I'm a pretty big believer in civilian oversight of the military - didn't think Mattis or Austin should have been confirmed as SecDefs, and I really don't see anything Milley did as wrong, except maybe not going public or to Congress.

I don't think there's anything wrong with personally reviewing the nuclear protocols when a President has threatened nuclear action, and especially not when a President has gone out of his way to subvert normal protocol and install loyalists like Trump did. I can easily see a situation where an order came down without certainty of its source.

It appears the calls to China were done with full knowledge of Pentagon leadership.

Trump was a maniac, should have been impeached. I am glad to know there are people that wouldn't/won't turn a blind eye.

And for those who think otherwise, then I assume it was ok with you when Cheney, et al. manipulated intelligence on WMDs in Iraq and CIA leadership went along and drew us into an almost 20 year conflict?

If we had anywhere near a functional legislative branch we wouldn't have these issues.

The same thing happened at the end of Nixon's presidency, there is historical precedence.

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Anonymous wrote:Does he need to be court-martialed? I don't know. But I do know that I'm glad he did what he did.

What you people fail to acknowledge or accept is that Trump was so unstable that this needed to be done.

There will be no court-martial. He will get a metal for it. Maybe the congressional Medal of Honor.

+1

We have presidents in this country. Not emperors.

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Oh I can’t wait for Rs all of sudden to trust Vindman.

Or all the demscum to start attacking his credibility?

"Demscum"? Your extreme prejudice is showing.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News: The phone calls between Milley and the Chinese general were not secret, several other people were in the room, and the Secretaries of Defense knew about them.

Fox News has learned there were about 15 people present for the phone calls, which were video teleconference calls. Sources familiar told Fox News that there were multiple notetaker present, and said the calls were both conducted with full knowledge of then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper and then-Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller.

According to the official, there was full civilian oversight of the phone calls, including a representative of the State Department, and Milley’s political adviser. Notes of the calls were taken and a summary note was sent to the Defense secretary and the intelligence community, the official said.

"This was not done like some sort of conspiratorial thing," another participant who overheard the conversation told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milley-calls-with-chinese-counterpart-were-not-secret-us-officials

Chris Miller really is an idiot.

Chris Miller also told Politico today that he knew Milley talked to the Chinese general.

The people also said that Milley did not go rogue in placing the call, as the book suggests. In fact, Milley asked permission from acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller before making the call, said one former senior defense official, who was in the room for the meeting. Milley also briefed the secretary’s office after the call, the former official said.

“We discussed beforehand and after his call with his Chinese counterpart,” the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic.

In an interview Wednesday, Miller told POLITICO that Milley almost certainly told him he was going to call his Chinese counterpart, but he didn’t recall getting a detailed readout of the call after.

“Looking back, I imagine there was a perfunctory exchange between us and our staffs about coordinating phone calls and messages for the day,” he said. “I don’t recall the specifics and it certainly wasn’t in a detailed or more formal way. It was more perfunctory/routine.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918

Anonymous wrote:Does he need to be court-martialed? I don't know. But I do know that I'm glad he did what he did.

What you people fail to acknowledge or accept is that Trump was so unstable that this needed to be done.

There will be no court-martial. He will get a metal for it. Maybe the congressional Medal of Honor.

Anonymous wrote:Milley seems to consider himself the most important person in the room.

He has overstepped and this whole thing needs to be fully investigated. And, quite frankly - Milley should be questioned under oath. But, that will never happen because there is absolutely no accountability for misconduct or incompetence or lawbreaking under this administration.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.

In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.

"Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book.

"Yes, sir."

'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/575311662.html

After January 6, this was exactly the right move for Millet to make.

Are you aware of the actions of the government in Nixon's final days? The Pentagon was worried that Nixon might launch a strike so they set up a system where no presidential order would go through without their approval.

Same here. This is what patriotism looks like.

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/08/25/archives/pentagon-kept-tight-reinin-last-days-of-nixon-rule-no-event.html

Anonymous wrote:Milley seems to consider himself the most important person in the room.

He has overstepped and this whole thing needs to be fully investigated. And, quite frankly - Milley should be questioned under oath. But, that will never happen because there is absolutely no accountability for misconduct or incompetence or lawbreaking under this administration.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.

In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.

"Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book.

"Yes, sir."

'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/575311662.html

Milley will be answering questions under oath on September 28 before Congress. Keep up.

Milley seems to consider himself the most important person in the room.

He has overstepped and this whole thing needs to be fully investigated. And, quite frankly - Milley should be questioned under oath. But, that will never happen because there is absolutely no accountability for misconduct or incompetence or lawbreaking under this administration.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.

In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.

"Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book.

"Yes, sir."

'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/575311662.html

Anonymous wrote:Does he need to be court-martialed? I don't know. But I do know that I'm glad he did what he did.

What you people fail to acknowledge or accept is that Trump was so unstable that this needed to be done.

+1 seriously

Does he need to be court-martialed? I don't know. But I do know that I'm glad he did what he did.

What you people fail to acknowledge or accept is that Trump was so unstable that this needed to be done.

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Anonymous wrote:Milley is a hero.

He committed treason and colluded with the enemy.

Trump spurred on an insurrection, and he's the R hero. So, I don't think anyone cares what you think about Miilley.

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Anonymous wrote:Milley is a hero.

He committed treason and colluded with the enemy.

Hi, you may want to get a better handle on what words mean.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News: The phone calls between Milley and the Chinese general were not secret, several other people were in the room, and the Secretaries of Defense knew about them.

Fox News has learned there were about 15 people present for the phone calls, which were video teleconference calls. Sources familiar told Fox News that there were multiple notetaker present, and said the calls were both conducted with full knowledge of then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper and then-Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller.

According to the official, there was full civilian oversight of the phone calls, including a representative of the State Department, and Milley’s political adviser. Notes of the calls were taken and a summary note was sent to the Defense secretary and the intelligence community, the official said.

"This was not done like some sort of conspiratorial thing," another participant who overheard the conversation told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milley-calls-with-chinese-counterpart-were-not-secret-us-officials

Chris Miller really is an idiot.

That's not new news.

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Anonymous wrote:Milley is a hero.

He committed treason and colluded with the enemy.

Right. He committed treason by trying to prevent a unilateral nuclear strike during an attempted coup and he colluded with our enemies by having pre-cleared comversations with his foreign counterpart.

Good thing there's already a bi-partisan Congressional investigation into the events surrounding these acts. He should tell us all exactly what was going through his mind at the time.