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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

Knowing everything that we now know now about Trump, what makes you sure that either of those scenarios are dumb?

Anonymous wrote:The right, and specifically Donald Trump, spent the last 10 years going after pedophiles and specifically the Epstein matter. Remember Pizzagate? that was a pedophile ring operating out of the non-existent basement of Comet Pizza.

But now, it is all a democratic hoax.

Make it make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

How is it "dumb?" I have not seen any evidence that the DOJ has even investigated the allegation for us to know if it's true or false. Something isn't "dumb" just because you don't like hearing it. People would think it's dumb to say we once tried to assassinate Fidel Castro with an exploding cigar but it turns out we did in fact try to do that.

It sounds like they were investigating it. It says in the transcript that an agent first reached out to her, but she used an alias. She called the top line to say she wanted to go on record with her real name because he didn’t give her contact info.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

How is it "dumb?" I have not seen any evidence that the DOJ has even investigated the allegation for us to know if it's true or false. Something isn't "dumb" just because you don't like hearing it. People would think it's dumb to say we once tried to assassinate Fidel Castro with an exploding cigar but it turns out we did in fact try to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is now an alleged baby killer. Pro lifers, how do we feel about this one? Is it ok to commit “post birth abortion” if Trump might be the daddy?

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf

Trump allegedly witnessed 13 year old's infant murdered immediately following birth. She was trafficked to Epstein by her uncle. From how it reads it appears that labor was brought non while sexual activity was going on. It's beyond disturbing

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-witnessed-infanticide-during-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-trafficking-crimes-doj-documents-share-chilling-details-11766539533049.html

Not defending Chump but that's an Indian website. In fact, all the sites that talk about this are tabloid sites, most from India. India is not quite known for reporting the truth nor is it a civilized country or a democracy.

The previous statement is not racist. Do some research. Indians do coordinated attacks online and in person against anyone who uncovers truths about India(ns) that shines India(ns) in a negative light. The recent rioting against Bangladesh is the latest example.

Redacted file from FBI

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet+8/EFTA00025010.pdf

That's a document from 2020 following up on an initial accusation from 2020 about an incident that occurred in 1984. 2020 was the Trump reelection campaign year where there was a lot of dirty politics going on. Where's the journalism reporting on this? Where's the followup? At this point, it's just hearsay and basically a hit piece. Unless there's an article that I missed not from India or a wacko christian "business news" site.

Chump is not a good person. Neither are the other rich and powerful all-white people in the Epstein circle. But this accusation is sloppy and unprofessional, and if proven false, will only further the argument that "people" are out to get Chump.

Trump controlled the DPJ and FBI in 2020. What is your point?

The point is that the story is salacious and potentially libelous without verified sources which can be found through journalistic investigation. Just the fact that a 13 year old gave natural birth and the delivery was performed by a bunch of old men sounds extremely dangerous and it's not like they dropped her off at the local ER. Perhaps there could be physical evidence of lasting skeletal damage that could be determined through an x-ray?

Also, other facts that could be verified:
- that Chump was on a plane to the middle of nowhere and back
- Chump was in Michigan during the time period
- the same Democrat Michigan governor (who doesn't like Chump) has been in office since 2019 so state police could have investigated
- I mean, they could probably ask Michael Cohen to verify it, although his credibility is not the best

Again. Not defending Chump. But people need to do some investigating instead of jumping to conclusions, which is exactly how you sink a case.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

The document about the murder of the baby is real. But the claims in it have neither been proven nor disproven. That you simply don't want to believe them doesn't magically disprove them. More robust information than that is needed.

Real does not mean a true event.

Where is your evidence that it is untrue?

Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for the full release of the files, as ordered by Congress. It's the law. Where are the files?

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

The document about the murder of the baby is real. But the claims in it have neither been proven nor disproven. That you simply don't want to believe them doesn't magically disprove them. More robust information than that is needed.

Real does not mean a true event.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.

The document about the murder of the baby is real. But the claims in it have neither been proven nor disproven. That you simply don't want to believe them doesn't magically disprove them. More robust information than that is needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Russian influence operations, disinfo and psyops is a real and proven thing, operating on a significant scale, and targeting not only our elections but many others in Europe and Africa and other areas. The fact that Republicans don't even want to acknowledge it, let alone deal with it, and deflect with "Russia Russia Russia" is in and of itself a national security issue.

Everyone knows there are Russian psyops just like there are American psyops. The question is the crazed Russia “collusion” thing that obsessed the left and was mostly fiction (remember the “pee tapes”?). Trump is bad enough without making up dumb sh*t. If anything these fantasies are more likely actually planted and promoted by Russia to make Dems look stupid.

MAGA's “Russia hoax” narrative only survives by pretending the Steele dossier and a rumored pee tape are the whole story. They aren’t.

The FBI opened its investigation before even hearing about the Steele Dossier, after a Trump adviser bragged that Russia had “dirt” in the form of stolen emails. Trump’s team then held a “love it” meeting for “Russia and its government’s support,” his campaign chair with deep Russian ties shared internal polling with a suspected intel asset, Flynn lied about secret sanctions talks with the Russian ambassador, Sessions lied about meetings with the same ambassador, and Trump publicly sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence in Helsinki.

Add years of Russian money flowing into Trump properties and a secret Trump Tower Moscow project during the campaign, and you don’t even need a pee tape to see the problem.

Mueller didn’t charge a criminal conspiracy, but he absolutely did not say "nothing happened."

Calling all of that "mostly fiction" or saying "stupid Dems" isn’t critical thinking; it’s closing your eyes to a specific, lengthy, well-documented foreign influence operation that our own intel community and a Republican-led Senate committee have already laid out in excruciating detail.

Ok. But the idea that Trump murdered a 13 year old girl’s baby with Epstein is about as dumb as the pee tapes.