Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 16:47     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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No it isn’t. And taking health cues from Cosmo is frightening.

Thing is: she could be healthy. You really, truly don’t know. You’re just making the snap judgment that since she’s fat, she must be unfit and unhealthy and that’s just not so. You’re as likely to find a skinny fat person whose insides are totally unhealthy or a thin person who is thin as a result of disordered eating, but those skinny fat people don’t come in for your scorn and you would only have sympathy for an unhealthy thin person. So really all you are is a fat shamer. You looked at a fat person and made a snap judgment and I bet you feel pretty pleased with your ignorance.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 14:01     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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No it isn’t. And taking health cues from Cosmo is frightening.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 12:31     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems as if you health nuts want to penalize overweight people for their choices. If that is the intent let's get right to the point and tax people on their BMI. On January 1st everyone reports to their local IRS office for a weigh in. Tax rate for the year is determined by BMI. Bingo, just what you wanted.


No, I want to penalize junk food companies for providing a toxic product, like we have successfully done for the tobacco companies and alcohol companies. I don't want to subsidize agribusiness, which is what leads directly to obesity.

Your definitions of junk food and toxic products are going to be different than my definitions so my BMI proposal is much cleaner and gets right to the heart of the matter.


So you are just an idiot. Since you are slow: Your personal definition of junk food is wholly irrelevant. Legislators come up with a standard definition, like they did for tobacco.

You seem totally ignorant of the legislative process, though, and I do not feel like educating you in science AND government. Man, though, your education failed you somewhere along the line.


My education was quite good we just disagree about the degree to which the federal government should be meddling in our lives. I don't want the Feds to be my Mom. Thankfully neither your junk food Tax or my BMI tax will ever be implemented.




Are you 13? You write like a kid who just read Ayn Rand for the first time.

In any event, eventually there will be taxation and much higher regulations on junk food, assuming there isn't a pill developed to "cure" obesity. There will just have to be another generation of people who die prematurely and terribly first. But sugar and junk food is going the way of tobacco.

There are many parallels to Big Tobacco here, and the pattern is the same (and agribusiness knows it). Eventually the number of people harmed by agribusiness will get to the point that it can't keep public opinion on its side. But it's going to take at least another generation of deaths.

Why do you need to begin every post with an insult? We are just having a discussion here.
I think you need to spend some time outside of your DC bubble. The rest of the country doesn't share your elitist views on food. Food choices will continue to evolve over time but there will be no big government intervention as you predict. Very few people see the need to have the Feds in their kitchen.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 12:13     Subject: Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:If you surround people with junk food and expect them against all odds hunt for better choices and make them.. that’s just no realistic, neither smart.

The way good habits are formed is by making the right choices easy and making bad choices more difficult.

For example, studies show that when sodas are replaced with water at checkout, people drank fewer sodas and more water.


How about returning to lunch hours, rather than 30 minutes of unpaid break? That would give more time to heat and eat a healthier lunch from home, wash dishes if necessary, and go for short walk before returning to work.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 12:03     Subject: Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

If you surround people with junk food and expect them against all odds hunt for better choices and make them.. that’s just no realistic, neither smart.

The way good habits are formed is by making the right choices easy and making bad choices more difficult.

For example, studies show that when sodas are replaced with water at checkout, people drank fewer sodas and more water.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 10:34     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:As I read through through some of the active threads on this forum, I can't help but see so much overlap in terms of judgment of other people if a particular problem doesn't impact them specifically. People deny that racism exists, blame parents for kids' mental health issues, and assert that anyone can be healthy and avoid being overweight if they try hard enough. Sure, most things can be accomplished if you prioritize that goal over all others, and healthy eating is one of those things. Yet most people have other demands in their life that need to be met that make it more difficult to prioritize health. Why are people so adverse to thinking about changes that would help more people adopt healthy lifestyles? In posts just today, we have people denying that racism exists, talking about how employers won't give them time to seek mental health treatment, despairing about how the health insurance coverage they and their employers pay for won't cover mental health treatment, and on and on.

Physical and mental health go together, and societal factors like low wages, long work hours, racism, lack of access to mental health treatment, lack of sleep, and many other factors make it more difficult to maintain good physical and mental health. Is it so horrible to think that as a society we can do better?


Predicted answer: Git yer hands off my junk food!
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 10:30     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

As I read through through some of the active threads on this forum, I can't help but see so much overlap in terms of judgment of other people if a particular problem doesn't impact them specifically. People deny that racism exists, blame parents for kids' mental health issues, and assert that anyone can be healthy and avoid being overweight if they try hard enough. Sure, most things can be accomplished if you prioritize that goal over all others, and healthy eating is one of those things. Yet most people have other demands in their life that need to be met that make it more difficult to prioritize health. Why are people so adverse to thinking about changes that would help more people adopt healthy lifestyles? In posts just today, we have people denying that racism exists, talking about how employers won't give them time to seek mental health treatment, despairing about how the health insurance coverage they and their employers pay for won't cover mental health treatment, and on and on.

Physical and mental health go together, and societal factors like low wages, long work hours, racism, lack of access to mental health treatment, lack of sleep, and many other factors make it more difficult to maintain good physical and mental health. Is it so horrible to think that as a society we can do better?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 10:09     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 10:06     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It seems as if you health nuts want to penalize overweight people for their choices. If that is the intent let's get right to the point and tax people on their BMI. On January 1st everyone reports to their local IRS office for a weigh in. Tax rate for the year is determined by BMI. Bingo, just what you wanted.


No, I want to penalize junk food companies for providing a toxic product, like we have successfully done for the tobacco companies and alcohol companies. I don't want to subsidize agribusiness, which is what leads directly to obesity.

Your definitions of junk food and toxic products are going to be different than my definitions so my BMI proposal is much cleaner and gets right to the heart of the matter.


So you are just an idiot. Since you are slow: Your personal definition of junk food is wholly irrelevant. Legislators come up with a standard definition, like they did for tobacco.

You seem totally ignorant of the legislative process, though, and I do not feel like educating you in science AND government. Man, though, your education failed you somewhere along the line.


My education was quite good we just disagree about the degree to which the federal government should be meddling in our lives. I don't want the Feds to be my Mom. Thankfully neither your junk food Tax or my BMI tax will ever be implemented.




Are you 13? You write like a kid who just read Ayn Rand for the first time.

In any event, eventually there will be taxation and much higher regulations on junk food, assuming there isn't a pill developed to "cure" obesity. There will just have to be another generation of people who die prematurely and terribly first. But sugar and junk food is going the way of tobacco.

There are many parallels to Big Tobacco here, and the pattern is the same (and agribusiness knows it). Eventually the number of people harmed by agribusiness will get to the point that it can't keep public opinion on its side. But it's going to take at least another generation of deaths.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 09:49     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.


So we are in agreement that you are trying to impose your values on me.


No, because you choose what food to buy. Your own values at work!


Nope, you've influence my choices by manipulating prices through your luxury tax.


You mean the prices currently manipulated by big ag subsidies? Or does that value not concern you as much?

Not a fan of ag subsidies either. Let the market work.


I'm all for letting the market work, as long as that includes eliminating the subsidies that promote the use of high fructose corn syrup.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 08:12     Subject: Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Fat acceptance
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 20:45     Subject: Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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Anonymous wrote:“Candy and cookies” pretty much never appear at my kids’ schools. Halloween and valentines are candy free parties. And that’s pretty much standard.


That is a really great policy, but it is not the case in most schools. It wasn't until my child was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes that I was aware of how many treats were given out for birthdays and parties, and some teacher's lessons. I was really surprised.


Yeah, definitely not the case at DCPS. Far too much candy. Kindergartners redeeming their good behavior points at 10am on candy and not brushing their teeth for another 10 hours is its own problem.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 20:41     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems as if you health nuts want to penalize overweight people for their choices. If that is the intent let's get right to the point and tax people on their BMI. On January 1st everyone reports to their local IRS office for a weigh in. Tax rate for the year is determined by BMI. Bingo, just what you wanted.


No, I want to penalize junk food companies for providing a toxic product, like we have successfully done for the tobacco companies and alcohol companies. I don't want to subsidize agribusiness, which is what leads directly to obesity.

Your definitions of junk food and toxic products are going to be different than my definitions so my BMI proposal is much cleaner and gets right to the heart of the matter.


So you are just an idiot. Since you are slow: Your personal definition of junk food is wholly irrelevant. Legislators come up with a standard definition, like they did for tobacco.

You seem totally ignorant of the legislative process, though, and I do not feel like educating you in science AND government. Man, though, your education failed you somewhere along the line.


My education was quite good we just disagree about the degree to which the federal government should be meddling in our lives. I don't want the Feds to be my Mom. Thankfully neither your junk food Tax or my BMI tax will ever be implemented.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 20:40     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems as if you health nuts want to penalize overweight people for their choices. If that is the intent let's get right to the point and tax people on their BMI. On January 1st everyone reports to their local IRS office for a weigh in. Tax rate for the year is determined by BMI. Bingo, just what you wanted.


No, I want to penalize junk food companies for providing a toxic product, like we have successfully done for the tobacco companies and alcohol companies. I don't want to subsidize agribusiness, which is what leads directly to obesity.

Your definitions of junk food and toxic products are going to be different than my definitions so my BMI proposal is much cleaner and gets right to the heart of the matter.


So you are just an idiot. Since you are slow: Your personal definition of junk food is wholly irrelevant. Legislators come up with a standard definition, like they did for tobacco.

You seem totally ignorant of the legislative process, though, and I do not feel like educating you in science AND government. Man, though, your education failed you somewhere along the line.


Yeah, that PP maybe also wants to put drug users in jail instead of dealers. Also anyone who lost money to Bernie Madoff.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 20:35     Subject: Re:Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems as if you health nuts want to penalize overweight people for their choices. If that is the intent let's get right to the point and tax people on their BMI. On January 1st everyone reports to their local IRS office for a weigh in. Tax rate for the year is determined by BMI. Bingo, just what you wanted.


No, I want to penalize junk food companies for providing a toxic product, like we have successfully done for the tobacco companies and alcohol companies. I don't want to subsidize agribusiness, which is what leads directly to obesity.

Your definitions of junk food and toxic products are going to be different than my definitions so my BMI proposal is much cleaner and gets right to the heart of the matter.


So you are just an idiot. Since you are slow: Your personal definition of junk food is wholly irrelevant. Legislators come up with a standard definition, like they did for tobacco.

You seem totally ignorant of the legislative process, though, and I do not feel like educating you in science AND government. Man, though, your education failed you somewhere along the line.