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Anonymous wrote:

No, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

A position of power? These were all wanna be actresses, striving for movie star roles, not hungry women desperate to feed their children with no other options. Nobody forced them to have sex with him. They did so willingly and then he didn’t give them the roles they thought they deserved to get for sleeping with him. There was a lot of disgusting behavior, on all sides, but no criminality.
Even the children?

Kaja Sokola 16

IN SEPTEMBER 2002, the 16-year-old model newly arrived in Manhattan from her native Poland. While attending an event whose guest list was curated by her agency — NEXT She met Harvey Weinstein. He was 50 years old at the time

Sokola recalls he said, ‘If you want to be an actress, I can see you have potential and I would like to meet with you for lunch and discuss it.’ Of course, I’ve heard, ‘Do not go out for dinners. People can put all sorts of drugs in your drinks.’ But a lunch seemed safe.”

As she laid out in a 2019 lawsuit, Sokola tells Rolling Stone she gave her phone number to the Miramax mogul. Three days later, he called and told her that his driver would pick her up for lunch. While sitting side by side in the car, Weinstein asked Sokola her age. She told him the truth: 16. The driver dropped the two off at Weinstein’s Soho apartment.

When the elevator door opened directly into Weinstein’s home, she realized that they were alone. Within minutes, Sokola says, Weinstein sexually assaulted her and then ejaculated on the floor. Terrified, she tried to bolt, but he blocked her exit and held her in place by her arms. In an effort to normalize the situation, Weinstein insisted that what just happened was commonplace for him and threw out the names of Gwyneth Paltrow and Penélope Cruz as women whose careers he’d helped. As he released his grip on her arms, Sokola says, he gave her a parting piece of advice. He told the teen that she needed to work on her stubbornness.

Lindsay Goldbrum, one of Sokola’s attorneys—“Harvey could not do what he did to these women if he was not enabled by scores of people,” says

Heiress Abigail Disney—“It’s high time that the company that once owned Miramax during Weinstein’s most prolific period of predation acknowledge its own culpability. Harvey was an open secret. I mean, it wasn’t even a secret. Everyone knew what Harvey was about, and that was just fine as long as everybody saw it as, Well, this is just how business is done. Nobody had the moral clarity to step up and say, Well, not here. We don’t do it that way here. I think Disney needs to step up. When you’ve done a wrong thing, even if it’s only by stepping back and letting something happen, that’s still a wrong thing to do. And you have to take responsibility.” https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/harvey-weinstein-accuser-interview-youngest-kaja-soloka-1393654/

A serious question, so don't get upset or think that I approve of sexual assault. But were any of her accusations proved in court? From what I've read, it seems like a "He said she said" type of situation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPR website has a story on him today. I swear, the photo of Harvey is a different man. His eyes are totally different, more than plastic surgery could do.

Can anyone post side by side photos of former Harvey next to the current Harvey?

What's the question?

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Anonymous wrote:Get your eyes checked, PP. It's obviously the same man.

+1. He lost weight and aged, but it's clearly the same man.

Anonymous wrote:Get your eyes checked, PP. It's obviously the same man.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPR website has a story on him today. I swear, the photo of Harvey is a different man. His eyes are totally different, more than plastic surgery could do.

Can anyone post side by side photos of former Harvey next to the current Harvey?

What's the question?

Anonymous wrote:The NPR website has a story on him today. I swear, the photo of Harvey is a different man. His eyes are totally different, more than plastic surgery could do.

Can anyone post side by side photos of former Harvey next to the current Harvey?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he has a slow and painful death in prison.

Yes, the evil he perpetrated is unfathomable, yet Michelle “honored” at the White House with a huge extravaganza. Everyone knew what he was doing, but didn’t care.

Plenty of privileged women don't care in the slightest when their men abuse under privileged women. But if they have a consensual affair with an "equal", they'll go scorched earth.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he has a slow and painful death in prison.

Yes, the evil he perpetrated is unfathomable, yet Michelle “honored” at the White House with a huge extravaganza. Everyone knew what he was doing, but didn’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:It's no different than Hugh Hefner and Playboy, yet we don't really drag him through the mud. (Gross) tale as old as time, I guess.

He really died at the opportune moment, didn't he?

OMG, you need to do your research. A&E has made a great multi episode series depicting how horrible he was, they rerun it frequently, well worth watching. It's also been shown on Vice, who do a great job of airing horrible behavior by many who escape it while living.

I mean, I guess? But I do feel like there needs to be some reckoning given how many celebrities were active participants in the Playboy machine and E basically glorified him and those women (that, let's be honest, were pretty close to sex slaves).

Anonymous wrote:Gotta wonder, if you're him, wouldn't you prefer to just die quickly? I know that's not a pleasant thought, but neither is being a formerly filthy rich 68 yo and in ill health spending your last several years of life in prison.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

A position of power? These were all wanna be actresses, striving for movie star roles, not hungry women desperate to feed their children with no other options. Nobody forced them to have sex with him. They did so willingly and then he didn’t give them the roles they thought they deserved to get for sleeping with him. There was a lot of disgusting behavior, on all sides, but no criminality.
Even the children?

Kaja Sokola 16

IN SEPTEMBER 2002, the 16-year-old model newly arrived in Manhattan from her native Poland. While attending an event whose guest list was curated by her agency — NEXT She met Harvey Weinstein. He was 50 years old at the time

Sokola recalls he said, ‘If you want to be an actress, I can see you have potential and I would like to meet with you for lunch and discuss it.’ Of course, I’ve heard, ‘Do not go out for dinners. People can put all sorts of drugs in your drinks.’ But a lunch seemed safe.”

As she laid out in a 2019 lawsuit, Sokola tells Rolling Stone she gave her phone number to the Miramax mogul. Three days later, he called and told her that his driver would pick her up for lunch. While sitting side by side in the car, Weinstein asked Sokola her age. She told him the truth: 16. The driver dropped the two off at Weinstein’s Soho apartment.

When the elevator door opened directly into Weinstein’s home, she realized that they were alone. Within minutes, Sokola says, Weinstein sexually assaulted her and then ejaculated on the floor. Terrified, she tried to bolt, but he blocked her exit and held her in place by her arms. In an effort to normalize the situation, Weinstein insisted that what just happened was commonplace for him and threw out the names of Gwyneth Paltrow and Penélope Cruz as women whose careers he’d helped. As he released his grip on her arms, Sokola says, he gave her a parting piece of advice. He told the teen that she needed to work on her stubbornness.

Lindsay Goldbrum, one of Sokola’s attorneys—“Harvey could not do what he did to these women if he was not enabled by scores of people,” says

Heiress Abigail Disney—“It’s high time that the company that once owned Miramax during Weinstein’s most prolific period of predation acknowledge its own culpability. Harvey was an open secret. I mean, it wasn’t even a secret. Everyone knew what Harvey was about, and that was just fine as long as everybody saw it as, Well, this is just how business is done. Nobody had the moral clarity to step up and say, Well, not here. We don’t do it that way here. I think Disney needs to step up. When you’ve done a wrong thing, even if it’s only by stepping back and letting something happen, that’s still a wrong thing to do. And you have to take responsibility.” https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/harvey-weinstein-accuser-interview-youngest-kaja-soloka-1393654/

A serious question, so don't get upset or think that I approve of sexual assault. But were any of her accusations proved in court? From what I've read, it seems like a "He said she said" type of situation.

Why don't you ever believe the girls and women? Why would she lie? You just proved that she would be punished for speaking out.

You pp are a bystander and it really sickens me

Why? Because he’s really rich and she has much to gain from a civil trial against him. There’s something very opportunistic about her. She was a teen who voluntarily moved by herself to a new country for work. That takes a certain type of person who is not shy or diminutive. She got from Poland to a top NYC modeling agency and yet I’m supposed to believe she had no idea what a meeting with Weinstein would entail when apparently everyone in the business knew.

Yeah, I don’t think so. Especially not when she needs to tell her story in Rolling Stone, as opposed to going to the police promptly when it happened. No, I don’t believe her at all. They are all very, very skeezy and gross.

The age of consent in NY is 17 and she was 16, so it's statutory rape regardless. There are also some elements of force, as described. Her story is a lot more sympathetic than the adult women who pretty much went to his hotel to suck him off and then said his body parts were really gross and they felt like they were raped.

I don’t believe a word coming out of her mouth, including her alleged age. She wasn’t born in the US, so the documentation is iffy at best. Who knows what’s true or not, why would her parents let her move to NYC alone if she were just 16?