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Post 08/28/2018 13:30     Subject: VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

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I am huge open system proponent, and until we have that we will always be fighting this battle with one hand tied behind our back, but ... pro/rel at the youth level without pro/rel at the professional club level is a recipe for disaster, developmentally speaking.

Unless the success of youth player development is tied in to the success (competitively and economically) of the professional first team of the club, the incentives for long term development just do not exist.


I agree that the system needs to open at the professional level, which would attract serious investments in the game, that is the key to have a chance to catch up with the rest of the world. But starting implementing these principles at youth level is not a bad thing. The USSF had $130-140 million in surplus funds last year so they could have put some of that money into youth soccer and create an open national system at the youth level similar to the rest of the world.


Sigh. Yes, the USSF is evil. Please go back and find one of tens of other threads that have argued it back and forth and address it there. This thread has very little to do with that argument.


This thread specifically discusses issues with DA and other programs. If you think that USSF is irrelevant to this discussion, please by all means continue to support the status quo, while forking out thousands of dollars for your dear daughter's privilege to play youth soccer.



I agree with the poster above you. While USSF and the national "system" we have in place are arguably related, directly or indirectly, to every thing that happens at the local level, it still pulls the thread off topic to rant about about USSF or "Why US Soccer sucks." These sorts of comments appear on every thread here of any length and usually have little to do with the specifics of the topic under discussion. I think we need to have a single thread where posters can go to talk about the global problems with US soccer. Maybe we need two threads--one for complaining about the current system and another for proposing solutions.


Unlike many other threads that are club specific, this thread relates to broad topic and the recent posts appear to focus on various problems with girls DA. USSF runs the DA in partnership with various member clubs so any solution is likely to involve the USSF. And since you seem to have all the answers, what's the solution to the current situation? Please enlighten us.


This thread's title "VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions." Most posts in here have to do with local concerns about clubs, etc. So I'd say, no it's not about USSF/DA/ general US Soccer concerns.


Doesn't the large portion of the posts relate DA clubs with perhaps some ECNL mixed in? It's not like people are discussing PAC or Herndon programs on this thread.


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Post 08/28/2018 13:23     Subject: VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

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I am huge open system proponent, and until we have that we will always be fighting this battle with one hand tied behind our back, but ... pro/rel at the youth level without pro/rel at the professional club level is a recipe for disaster, developmentally speaking.

Unless the success of youth player development is tied in to the success (competitively and economically) of the professional first team of the club, the incentives for long term development just do not exist.


I agree that the system needs to open at the professional level, which would attract serious investments in the game, that is the key to have a chance to catch up with the rest of the world. But starting implementing these principles at youth level is not a bad thing. The USSF had $130-140 million in surplus funds last year so they could have put some of that money into youth soccer and create an open national system at the youth level similar to the rest of the world.


Sigh. Yes, the USSF is evil. Please go back and find one of tens of other threads that have argued it back and forth and address it there. This thread has very little to do with that argument.


This thread specifically discusses issues with DA and other programs. If you think that USSF is irrelevant to this discussion, please by all means continue to support the status quo, while forking out thousands of dollars for your dear daughter's privilege to play youth soccer.



I agree with the poster above you. While USSF and the national "system" we have in place are arguably related, directly or indirectly, to every thing that happens at the local level, it still pulls the thread off topic to rant about about USSF or "Why US Soccer sucks." These sorts of comments appear on every thread here of any length and usually have little to do with the specifics of the topic under discussion. I think we need to have a single thread where posters can go to talk about the global problems with US soccer. Maybe we need two threads--one for complaining about the current system and another for proposing solutions.


Unlike many other threads that are club specific, this thread relates to broad topic and the recent posts appear to focus on various problems with girls DA. USSF runs the DA in partnership with various member clubs so any solution is likely to involve the USSF. And since you seem to have all the answers, what's the solution to the current situation? Please enlighten us.


This thread's title "VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions." Most posts in here have to do with local concerns about clubs, etc. So I'd say, no it's not about USSF/DA/ general US Soccer concerns.


Doesn't the large portion of the posts relate DA clubs with perhaps some ECNL mixed in? It's not like people are discussing PAC or Herndon programs on this thread.
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Post 08/28/2018 13:19     Subject: VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

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I am huge open system proponent, and until we have that we will always be fighting this battle with one hand tied behind our back, but ... pro/rel at the youth level without pro/rel at the professional club level is a recipe for disaster, developmentally speaking.

Unless the success of youth player development is tied in to the success (competitively and economically) of the professional first team of the club, the incentives for long term development just do not exist.


I agree that the system needs to open at the professional level, which would attract serious investments in the game, that is the key to have a chance to catch up with the rest of the world. But starting implementing these principles at youth level is not a bad thing. The USSF had $130-140 million in surplus funds last year so they could have put some of that money into youth soccer and create an open national system at the youth level similar to the rest of the world.


Sigh. Yes, the USSF is evil. Please go back and find one of tens of other threads that have argued it back and forth and address it there. This thread has very little to do with that argument.


This thread specifically discusses issues with DA and other programs. If you think that USSF is irrelevant to this discussion, please by all means continue to support the status quo, while forking out thousands of dollars for your dear daughter's privilege to play youth soccer.


I agree with the poster above you. While USSF and the national "system" we have in place are arguably related, directly or indirectly, to every thing that happens at the local level, it still pulls the thread off topic to rant about about USSF or "Why US Soccer sucks." These sorts of comments appear on every thread here of any length and usually have little to do with the specifics of the topic under discussion. I think we need to have a single thread where posters can go to talk about the global problems with US soccer. Maybe we need two threads--one for complaining about the current system and another for proposing solutions.


Unlike many other threads that are club specific, this thread relates to broad topic and the recent posts appear to focus on various problems with girls DA. USSF runs the DA in partnership with various member clubs so any solution is likely to involve the USSF. And since you seem to have all the answers, what's the solution to the current situation? Please enlighten us.


I would never claim to have all the answers for how to fix the county's soccer system. And I agree with a lot of the complaints. It's just enormously annoying to have every single thread here derailed by the exact same off-topic rants that we have seen here year after year. If you are so passionate about the problems with American soccer, why wouldn't you want to have your own thread to discuss the issue? Or you could join the long-standing and intelligent (for the most part) discussions already going on on pro-rel on Big Soccer or 3four3's twitter.