Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:58
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Again we're talking about AVERAGE people i.e. layman.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:56
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.
Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).
What schools have any academic swagger to the average Midwesterner?
Outside of the flagship U or whatever state you're in...HYPSM...and maybe Duke and Notre Dame. That's it.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:38
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.
Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).
What schools have any academic swagger to the average Midwesterner?
I'll bite. Harvard registers on pretty much anyone's radar. After that, most folks considering college look at their state schools. Harvard could fill a class based on top Midwestern students who attend their flagship uni based on cost and proximity. My cousins in VA got into Duke/Princeton, but both ended up at UVA as that is what the budget permitted.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:35
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.
Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).
Hmmmm, not sure about that. And we were a def "below average" Midwestern family.
Sincerely, sibling/cousin of UC and Northwestern alum
Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:32
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.
Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).
What schools have any academic swagger to the average Midwesterner?
Anonymous
11/30/2021 18:10
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
I am talking about laymen. The average man on the street in the South will definitely know about Duke. Same for the Midwest and Northwestern, and definitely UCLA/UC Berkeley for the average Californian.
Born and raised in the Midwest. The average Midwesterner doesn't care about or even know of Northwestern. If they're a couch potato football viewer they know Northwestern has a mediocre football team. Outside of that, very little name rec let alone prestige to the average Midwest resident. Most Midwest folks might hold their own state's flagship in high regard but they don't give a flying f*** about Northwestern (or UChicago).
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:53
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.
Once again for the older folks hard of hearing in the back:
Wiki on verifiability issues with HYPS, HYPSM, and HYPSMC:
“As things stand, no sources are provided to show any significant widespread use of any of these initialisms. I find it very hard to imagine a guidance counsellor saying "if you want to get into one of the aitch why pee ess em cee schools...." The verifiability policy notes that "The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain." So far, those editors have declined to do this.”
Now, all the old folks, take a seat and be quiet.
Did you cite Wikipedia and was it accepted in your PhD dissertation?
If not, let's avoid citing them as your authority.
Ironically, Wikipedia seems to be just find with HYP (i.e., the "Big Three"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(colleges)
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:46
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.
Once again for the older folks hard of hearing in the back:
Wiki on verifiability issues with HYPS, HYPSM, and HYPSMC:
“As things stand, no sources are provided to show any significant widespread use of any of these initialisms. I find it very hard to imagine a guidance counsellor saying "if you want to get into one of the aitch why pee ess em cee schools...." The verifiability policy notes that "The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain." So far, those editors have declined to do this.”
Now, all the old folks, take a seat and be quiet.
Did you cite Wikipedia and was it accepted in your PhD dissertation?
If not, let's avoid citing them as your authority.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:40
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.
Once again for the older folks hard of hearing in the back:
Wiki on verifiability issues with HYPS, HYPSM, and HYPSMC:
“As things stand, no sources are provided to show any significant widespread use of any of these initialisms. I find it very hard to imagine a guidance counsellor saying "if you want to get into one of the aitch why pee ess em cee schools...." The verifiability policy notes that "The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain." So far, those editors have declined to do this.”
Now, all the old folks, take a seat and be quiet.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 17:28
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.
Wtf? Why is Rice on every third response. Obviously, the same poster pushing an agenda. Hard no.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:50
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Are you saying that everyone should get a trophy?
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT [HYPSM] are the crème de la crème. The Elite of the Elites. Is this a controversial statement?
Nonetheless, Brown, Rice and Duke are phenomenal universities and considered elite on many lists.
What is your beef?
BTW, I am in neither the HYPSM or bust gang, nor the elite institution or bust gang.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:25
Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:The UVA troll has popped up. He’s the one that keeps mentioning Rice. A few posts back he asserted that even laymen in TX know that Rice is a good school. Yet, when he bashes UVA, he would have you believe that no one has ever heard of it. The insecurity in this forum is unreal. The constant need for strivers to classify their school with HPYSM just shows that they aren’t the real thing - just hoping some glitter rubs off. Keep dreaming.
DP - UVA is not elite in the traditional sense. It's a good school, just not elite.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 16:24
Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
The UVA troll has popped up. He’s the one that keeps mentioning Rice. A few posts back he asserted that even laymen in TX know that Rice is a good school. Yet, when he bashes UVA, he would have you believe that no one has ever heard of it. The insecurity in this forum is unreal. The constant need for strivers to classify their school with HPYSM just shows that they aren’t the real thing - just hoping some glitter rubs off. Keep dreaming.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 15:35
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
The fragile folks are those whose sense of self-worth is apparently tied to being included in a larger group that includes HYPSM, but still excludes the vast majority of educational institutions.
You might want to disengage here.
Anonymous
11/30/2021 15:31
Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Posters on here are so deep in the bubble they have lost it. Any one educated at Brown or Rice or Duke or any of the others on here has an elite education. Get out a little so you can see that.
These people are hypsm fans. Only hypsm will do for their sick puppies. They are really fragile people.
Well those are certainly very elite institutions but if you go to Harvard or if you go to Rice....you are part of the elite educated class.