Anonymous wrote:"David Dao, the Elizabethtown doctor who was yanked off an overbooked United Airlines flight Sunday, has had a troubled history in Kentucky.

Dao, who went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003 and eventually convicted of drug-related offenses after an undercover investigation, according to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June. The documents allege that he was involved in fraudulent prescriptions for controlled substances and was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.

Dao was convicted of multiple felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud or deceit in November 2004 and was placed on five years of supervised probation in January 2005. He surrendered his medical license the next month."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/11/david-dao-passenger-removed-united-flight-doctor-troubled-past/100318320/

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Anonymous wrote:According to new article on WaPo, entire flight had boarded (people in seats) AND THEN the four United employees approached the gate agent saying they needed a seat.

So that is why this happened after everyone had boarded. So next time you get on an airplane, you aren't really safe until it takes off, because they can just come on board and remove you. This was not an overbooked or oversold flight. This was an example of entitlement by United employees, all of them.

Sorry, link here https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/04/11/amid-pr-fiasco-over-dragged-passenger-united-ceo-defends-his-crew/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.fc773c41ee25

Are you new to this thread? This is not new information....

No I am not new. But there has been much discussion re the limit of cash that can be offered to passengers if they get bumped for oversold, and what their rights are. Hut this article clearly states this wasn't an oversold situation, which closes one can of worms posters continue to discuss and opens a brand new one. There has also been much discussion on why did they wait for everyone to board, what does boarding mean, etc. this article is relevant to that.

Relax man.

Oversold is a term of art. It means selling more seats than are available for sale. Once the employees arrived, United decided that 4 seats were no longer available for sale. Thus, there is an oversold situation.

Term of art? Really? Because at what point did the plane become oversold? Does it always apply to employees? When the people had already boarded? Or when the gate agent had knowledge of the United employees needing seats. I think this would be a case law issue. I mean who decides all this, only the airlines?!

I don't trust United to self investigate this to exonerate themselves on defining "boarding" or "oversold" or anything else.

Anonymous wrote:You know this is all some managers fault. I can see the manager now...we will go to $800 per relocation event...not a penny more...must protect my budget.

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It wasn't an Involuntary Denied Boarding. He had ALREADY boarded. It was an involuntary de-boarding.

You are incorrect. A passenger is not officially boarded until the aircraft door is shut. Please stop spreading misinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, the guy is a hero, imo.

And I think he was a complete jerk. He should have complied when instructed to disembark.

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Anonymous wrote:In the end, the guy is a hero, imo.

And I think he was a complete jerk. He should have complied when instructed to disembark.

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Anonymous wrote:According to new article on WaPo, entire flight had boarded (people in seats) AND THEN the four United employees approached the gate agent saying they needed a seat.

So that is why this happened after everyone had boarded. So next time you get on an airplane, you aren't really safe until it takes off, because they can just come on board and remove you. This was not an overbooked or oversold flight. This was an example of entitlement by United employees, all of them.

Sorry, link here https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/04/11/amid-pr-fiasco-over-dragged-passenger-united-ceo-defends-his-crew/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.fc773c41ee25

Are you new to this thread? This is not new information....

No I am not new. But there has been much discussion re the limit of cash that can be offered to passengers if they get bumped for oversold, and what their rights are. Hut this article clearly states this wasn't an oversold situation, which closes one can of worms posters continue to discuss and opens a brand new one. There has also been much discussion on why did they wait for everyone to board, what does boarding mean, etc. this article is relevant to that.

Relax man.

Oversold is a term of art. It means selling more seats than are available for sale. Once the employees arrived, United decided that 4 seats were no longer available for sale. Thus, there is an oversold situation.

Term of art? Really? Because at what point did the plane become oversold? Does it always apply to employees? When the people had already boarded? Or when the gate agent had knowledge of the United employees needing seats. I think this would be a case law issue. I mean who decides all this, only the airlines?!

I don't trust United to self investigate this to exonerate themselves on defining "boarding" or "oversold" or anything else.

Anonymous wrote:Let's get to the important question....was it an on time departure?

Anonymous wrote:In the end, the guy is a hero, imo.