Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 19:22     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:If the young Sam Ellis had to get a job or two to finance his reckless lifestyle, maybe he would not have had so much time to repeatedly get in trouble.

Other parents can learn from the mistakes of his parents.



Restaurant work... Best way to expose your kids to adults that will get them alcohol.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 19:13     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

If the young Sam Ellis had to get a job or two to finance his reckless lifestyle, maybe he would not have had so much time to repeatedly get in trouble.

Other parents can learn from the mistakes of his parents.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 19:06     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?


So you would seek the help of police! Hmm. Okay?

I have 23 nieces and nephews and 3 kids. I get all kids are different. But you think you have control. You don't.

The police will say they are 18 and you have no legal recourse. Drop to your knees and pray they live until they move off to college and return with a little more sense.... Because 99% of the time that is all you can do.

I'm sorry, but it's your responsibility to stop supporting an 18 year old kid who's walking all over you. You DO have a say, as long as you're forking over money to maintain his lifestyle. You've got to be joking if you think this will correct itself in college.


What money. My child is on merit aid and a stipend. I don't give them money.

Is he paying you rent for room and board while at home?



He was home for 3 weeks then school paid for him to go to Peru to work in a clinic for the summer. How much should I charge him?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 19:01     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?


So you would seek the help of police! Hmm. Okay?

I have 23 nieces and nephews and 3 kids. I get all kids are different. But you think you have control. You don't.

The police will say they are 18 and you have no legal recourse. Drop to your knees and pray they live until they move off to college and return with a little more sense.... Because 99% of the time that is all you can do.

I'm sorry, but it's your responsibility to stop supporting an 18 year old kid who's walking all over you. You DO have a say, as long as you're forking over money to maintain his lifestyle. You've got to be joking if you think this will correct itself in college.


What money. My child is on merit aid and a stipend. I don't give them money.

Is he paying you rent for room and board while at home?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:59     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised that the posters on this forum are so adamant that the kids will not listen to them. Why is that?

If your kids do not agree with you on safety issues and break rules then you have a big failure of parenting and a respectful relationship. You have yourself to blame.

Exactly. But if your kid still wants/needs your financial support, there's still hope to work on this. After 18, money WITH strings attached, is a GOOD thing. Isn't that how the real world works? You get a paycheck AFTER you show up and do your work?

These kids are in for a very rude awaking if they are deprived of reality.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:55     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised that the posters on this forum are so adamant that the kids will not listen to them. Why is that?

If your kids do not agree with you on safety issues and break rules then you have a big failure of parenting and a respectful relationship. You have yourself to blame.


I know! My guess is highly inconsistent parenting for many years. Otherwise, kids generally are good and have some sense. Yes, they will make mistakes. But most kids are not insane knuckleheads that you can't influence at all.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:54     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?


So you would seek the help of police! Hmm. Okay?

I have 23 nieces and nephews and 3 kids. I get all kids are different. But you think you have control. You don't.

The police will say they are 18 and you have no legal recourse. Drop to your knees and pray they live until they move off to college and return with a little more sense.... Because 99% of the time that is all you can do.

I'm sorry, but it's your responsibility to stop supporting an 18 year old kid who's walking all over you. You DO have a say, as long as you're forking over money to maintain his lifestyle. You've got to be joking if you think this will correct itself in college.


What money. My child is on merit aid and a stipend. I don't give them money.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:48     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?


So you would seek the help of police! Hmm. Okay?

I have 23 nieces and nephews and 3 kids. I get all kids are different. But you think you have control. You don't.

The police will say they are 18 and you have no legal recourse. Drop to your knees and pray they live until they move off to college and return with a little more sense.... Because 99% of the time that is all you can do.

I'm sorry, but it's your responsibility to stop supporting an 18 year old kid who's walking all over you. You DO have a say, as long as you're forking over money to maintain his lifestyle. You've got to be joking if you think this will correct itself in college.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:37     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

I am surprised that the posters on this forum are so adamant that the kids will not listen to them. Why is that?

If your kids do not agree with you on safety issues and break rules then you have a big failure of parenting and a respectful relationship. You have yourself to blame.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:32     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?


So you would seek the help of police! Hmm. Okay?

I have 23 nieces and nephews and 3 kids. I get all kids are different. But you think you have control. You don't.

The police will say they are 18 and you have no legal recourse. Drop to your knees and pray they live until they move off to college and return with a little more sense.... Because 99% of the time that is all you can do.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:29     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?

The right response isn't the same for every kid. I know nothing about your kid, but if your kid is ignoring you to that degree, it can't hurt to stop by your local police station and see what their advice is. I know this issue is common, so I'd expect they may have some useful information to share. Would you do that as a beginning?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 18:22     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.


Okay, so you GPS your kid and catch them lying.

Then what? You take away the car and their phone and ground them.

And they sneak out, then what?

Do you chain them to their bed?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 17:34     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:I hope it's a wake-up call to the Wootton parents who don't care their kids are drinking and drugging as long as the grades stay up.

EVERY parent of a teen needs a wake-up call. If your kid is lying, start to verify their stories. Stop believing the continuing lies. Just stop, so your kid can start to respect you again.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 17:30     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More and more parents are afraid to say no. Their children are the ones who are most likely unable to say no, as well.

Parents need to band together (those who really care) and see the truth for themselves. "Everyone" is NOT going to the party. Just say no.

Just think how grateful are the kids who WEREN'T allowed to go to that fateful party one month ago. Kudos to their parents who just said no.


But the parents say no and kids climb out windows.

And then what happens next?


They die in a car accident.

Bingo.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2015 17:25     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More and more parents are afraid to say no. Their children are the ones who are most likely unable to say no, as well.

Parents need to band together (those who really care) and see the truth for themselves. "Everyone" is NOT going to the party. Just say no.

Just think how grateful are the kids who WEREN'T allowed to go to that fateful party one month ago. Kudos to their parents who just said no.


But the parents say no and kids climb out windows.

And then what happens next?


They die in a car accident.