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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

+1, and what is the GOP doing about anything you want accomplished? It's always the Democrats' fault, right? They have to play with one hand tied behind their back and another party not operating in good faith. It's amazing that they're able to accomplish anything. Remind me again what the GOP platform is beyond mass deportations, revenge and platitudes?

Again, for a lot of us, the choice is Democrat vs staying home. It is not Democrat vs MAGA.

Tell me what the Democrat plan is to make sure Project 2025 NEVER happens. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

They had a filibuster proof majority for less than a year into Obama's first term at the start of one of the worst financial crises since the Great Depression. They got the ACA passed while seeking GOP buy in along with a stimulus act. Everything else was focused on getting us out of the next Great Depression, nitwit.

Yes, the bailout recycled from Bush that he passed bailing out the banks instead of jailing them and bailing out the homeowners . He used all that time to pass Romney care and extend Bush tax cuts for the rich (of course) then blamed young people/millennials for sitting out the midterms. The Dems have the audacity to blame progressives and young people . They sit out elections because they do nothing. Instead of fake tears over Sandy Hook, they should’ve passed assault weapon bans when they had the filibuster proof majorities which was often.

Republicans did not win the Senate and Congress at all and were decimated post-Bush and even Before in 2006. I remember Nancy Pelosi refused to impeach Bush over lying about Iraq but they all spent billions in tax payer funds to impeach Trump twice for paying porn stars and classified docs and failed

Filibuster proof majorities were there for far more than a year .

The Dems are nothing but a cluster f of disappointment to progressives pushed toward Trump like myself . The Dem Party deserves to burn to ash and rebuild from the beginning

The Democrats are a coalition of many interests. What has the GOP ever done for you? I'll wait. The sad thing is, they can just obstruct because, other than tax cuts and now mass deportations, they don't have any policies. Or rather, they don't have any popular policies. It's just easier to block the other side and say, "See government doesn't work. Vote for me!"

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

+1

Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

Biden didn't explode the price of food, that would be the food producers and grocery chains. We live in a capitalist society and the capitalists decided to use the cover of COVID and supply chains to rape the US consumer.

So unless we want a socialist country, which the right projects on to the left, we are left with private companies selling food for maximum profit. And yet the right blames Biden.

What is the GOP plan to reduce costs? I'll wait here but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

This is not true. Capitalism would’ve exploded the prices when the illegal migrant raids were going on , slaughterhouses were getting shut down, and tariffs to China were going on

Trump handled COVID much better than this administration would’ve. Could you imagine if this insane war with Russia and open border policy was going on during the start of COVID? The cities would’ve been bankrupted between the public health crises of migrants in hospitals and taking care of migrants along with COVID .

Prices had gone up for some stuff during covid, while it went down for others. But, we had the stimulus money helped people afford the costs.

We had stimulus money because we didn’t have a migrant crisis and a proxy war sending billions of dollars to NATO and Ukraines former comedian turned president . Thank God Biden wasnt president when COVID first hit. It’s funny how the media pivoted to the virus no longer being so deadly once trump left office

Anonymous wrote:Biden is pretty much the George W Bush of the Democrat Party . Same thing with Kamala . Neither has the experience and both will ruin our economy and set the world on fire if either get another term

Anonymous wrote: Remember the Dems who called out Dubya Bush and his war for oil in Iraq?

Why the silence now that Republican-lite Biden is doing the same?

We don’t want a continuation of potential WW3 with Kamala Harris . All the modern nations are dumping us and our dollar like old news thanks to Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

They had a filibuster proof majority for less than a year into Obama's first term at the start of one of the worst financial crises since the Great Depression. They got the ACA passed while seeking GOP buy in along with a stimulus act. Everything else was focused on getting us out of the next Great Depression, nitwit.

Yes, the bailout recycled from Bush that he passed bailing out the banks instead of jailing them and bailing out the homeowners . He used all that time to pass Romney care and extend Bush tax cuts for the rich (of course) then blamed young people/millennials for sitting out the midterms. The Dems have the audacity to blame progressives and young people . They sit out elections because they do nothing. Instead of fake tears over Sandy Hook, they should’ve passed assault weapon bans when they had the filibuster proof majorities which was often.

Republicans did not win the Senate and Congress at all and were decimated post-Bush and even Before in 2006. I remember Nancy Pelosi refused to impeach Bush over lying about Iraq but they all spent billions in tax payer funds to impeach Trump twice for paying porn stars and classified docs and failed

Filibuster proof majorities were there for far more than a year .

The Dems are nothing but a cluster f of disappointment to progressives pushed toward Trump like myself . The Dem Party deserves to burn to ash and rebuild from the beginning

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

+1, and what is the GOP doing about anything you want accomplished? It's always the Democrats' fault, right? They have to play with one hand tied behind their back and another party not operating in good faith. It's amazing that they're able to accomplish anything. Remind me again what the GOP platform is beyond mass deportations, revenge and platitudes?

Bull! We had 20 years out of the past 30+ years under Democratic administrations . 16 years of Clinton and Obama, and 4 years of Biden. They all were voted in with blue waves over Senate and Congress and did nothing . Where’s the gun control? The abortion protection? Where even is equal pay for women? We’ve been waiting on that one since 1972 and Dems were able to slip that to now pass EO’s /legislation saying anyone can be women and use women’s spaces . Great

But compared to the president, Harris performs three points better among women, seven points better among Americans aged 18 to 29, seven points better among independents, eight points better among Black Americans and 13 points better among those who view both Biden and Trump unfavorably (so-called “double haters”). (These groups have small sample sizes and therefore larger margins of error than the survey as a whole.)

Anonymous wrote:Virginia is the only swing state where Harris is polling above Trump. Trump is up in all the others. That is very close to where Biden was polling before he dropped out.

It looks like a typical presidential race with no incumbency which thus one is.

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

+1

Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

Biden didn't explode the price of food, that would be the food producers and grocery chains. We live in a capitalist society and the capitalists decided to use the cover of COVID and supply chains to rape the US consumer.

So unless we want a socialist country, which the right projects on to the left, we are left with private companies selling food for maximum profit. And yet the right blames Biden.

What is the GOP plan to reduce costs? I'll wait here but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

This is not true. Capitalism would’ve exploded the prices when the illegal migrant raids were going on , slaughterhouses were getting shut down, and tariffs to China were going on

Trump handled COVID much better than this administration would’ve. Could you imagine if this insane war with Russia and open border policy was going on during the start of COVID? The cities would’ve been bankrupted between the public health crises of migrants in hospitals and taking care of migrants along with COVID .

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

+1, and what is the GOP doing about anything you want accomplished? It's always the Democrats' fault, right? They have to play with one hand tied behind their back and another party not operating in good faith. It's amazing that they're able to accomplish anything. Remind me again what the GOP platform is beyond mass deportations, revenge and platitudes?

Bull! We had 20 years out of the past 30+ years under Democratic administrations . 16 years of Clinton and Obama, and 4 years of Biden. They all were voted in with blue waves over Senate and Congress and did nothing . Where’s the gun control? The abortion protection? Where even is equal pay for women? We’ve been waiting on that one since 1972 and Dems were able to slip that to now pass EO’s /legislation saying anyone can be women and use women’s spaces . Great

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

+1, and what is the GOP doing about anything you want accomplished? It's always the Democrats' fault, right? They have to play with one hand tied behind their back and another party not operating in good faith. It's amazing that they're able to accomplish anything. Remind me again what the GOP platform is beyond mass deportations, revenge and platitudes?

Again, for a lot of us, the choice is Democrat vs staying home. It is not Democrat vs MAGA.

Tell me what the Democrat plan is to make sure Project 2025 NEVER happens. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

They had a filibuster proof majority for less than a year into Obama's first term at the start of one of the worst financial crises since the Great Depression. They got the ACA passed while seeking GOP buy in along with a stimulus act. Everything else was focused on getting us out of the next Great Depression, nitwit.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

It had been that way every olympic year...you can actually google it, nothing new.

That wasn’t the question. The question was, why should that sort of judgment induce me to vote for their candidate?