Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 22:46     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans:

"Have babies! No abortion or birth control for you! If you're infertile then fk you!"

It is a legitimate concern for people who care about climate and planet over population. You can go ahead and have your babies as many as you want (like most newly arrived immigrants do), but there is absolutely no reason to create babies artificially. All the immigrants who came here recently are young and healthy and we will have a healthy next population. 40+ moms can breed the cats.


Except they won't be white babies, so in GOP world, it doesn't count.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 22:46     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

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Anonymous wrote:The Southern Baptist Convention has voted to oppose IVF. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994


And Catholics have always been against birth control and abortion. They both mean squat.

No one outside of a religion cares what weird rules they come up with, that is religion is on a slow fade in this country.


The Catholic Church also opposes IVF and IUI. Because it’s not “natural.”

Most Catholics don’t feel that way but think about the composition of the SCOTUS.


That composition was part of a unanimous decision to not limit the abortion medication mifepristone.


No. They held that the plaintiff didn’t have standing. They’ll wait for another case after Trump is elected and prohibit it then. SCOTUS has gutted stare decisis.

Words from a very wise man.


"Wise man" seems to ignore that Justice Kavanaugh provided a road map for the next case to be successful.

It is horrifying to me that in the GOP world, my IVF kids would not have been allowed to happen.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 22:45     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:Republicans:

"Have babies! No abortion or birth control for you! If you're infertile then fk you!"

It is a legitimate concern for people who care about climate and planet over population. You can go ahead and have your babies as many as you want (like most newly arrived immigrants do), but there is absolutely no reason to create babies artificially. All the immigrants who came here recently are young and healthy and we will have a healthy next population. 40+ moms can breed the cats.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 22:43     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:This is just the dumbest fking issue. People are waiting to have kids later anyway. Why do the right wing want to hasten the trend of a lower population by preventing the care that would allow families to have babies?

So many young people are eschewing having kids and you dumb fks and your personhood bullsht IVF theory need to fk off.


Wow, someone's wife is either barren or intentionally does not want to reproduce with you.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 18:02     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Southern Baptist Convention has voted to oppose IVF. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994


And Catholics have always been against birth control and abortion. They both mean squat.

No one outside of a religion cares what weird rules they come up with, that is religion is on a slow fade in this country.


The Catholic Church also opposes IVF and IUI. Because it’s not “natural.”

Most Catholics don’t feel that way but think about the composition of the SCOTUS.


That composition was part of a unanimous decision to not limit the abortion medication mifepristone.


No. They held that the plaintiff didn’t have standing. They’ll wait for another case after Trump is elected and prohibit it then. SCOTUS has gutted stare decisis.

Words from a very wise man.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 17:20     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even a patriarchal, conservative place like India has no issues with IVF and abortion is legal up to 20 weeks and under exceptional circumstances up to 24 weeks. I can't even wrap my head around what is happening in the U.S.


It’s like a magic trick where the magician distracts the audience to do the trick.

Here the GOP is distracting the voters with culture wars while they fill their pockets with tax dollars and graft.

It’s both though. The GOP is a terrible alliance of people who are out there to get a buck at any cost along with Christian nationalists who want to install some version of a theocracy with minimal rights for the people they don’t like. That second group is happy to erase IVF.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 16:58     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:Republicans:

"Have babies! No abortion or birth control for you! If you're infertile then fk you!"


Yeah, it makes absolutely no sense, but that's conservative right wing religious people for you.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 16:37     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Republicans:

"Have babies! No abortion or birth control for you! If you're infertile then fk you!"
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 16:30     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even a patriarchal, conservative place like India has no issues with IVF and abortion is legal up to 20 weeks and under exceptional circumstances up to 24 weeks. I can't even wrap my head around what is happening in the U.S.


It's the tyranny of the minority and this November we need to put a stop to it.


You’re seeing a lot of fed up zealots. I mean look at all the odd chants of “we’re a republic not a democracy!!!!” from the right. They know young people are mostly not behind their insanity and have to cement these socially backward policies while they can. Now IVF is on the table? What’s next? Teams of conservative guardian angel neighborhood watch types on the lookout to ban masterbtion? I mean where does it end. These people want to shove their religion down your throat.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 15:38     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Southern Baptist Convention has voted to oppose IVF. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994


And Catholics have always been against birth control and abortion. They both mean squat.

No one outside of a religion cares what weird rules they come up with, that is religion is on a slow fade in this country.


The Catholic Church also opposes IVF and IUI. Because it’s not “natural.”

Most Catholics don’t feel that way but think about the composition of the SCOTUS.


That composition was part of a unanimous decision to not limit the abortion medication mifepristone.


No. They held that the plaintiff didn’t have standing. They’ll wait for another case after Trump is elected and prohibit it then. SCOTUS has gutted stare decisis.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 15:16     Subject: IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Southern Baptist Convention has voted to oppose IVF. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994


And Catholics have always been against birth control and abortion. They both mean squat.

No one outside of a religion cares what weird rules they come up with, that is religion is on a slow fade in this country.


The Catholic Church also opposes IVF and IUI. Because it’s not “natural.”

Most Catholics don’t feel that way but think about the composition of the SCOTUS.


That composition was part of a unanimous decision to not limit the abortion medication mifepristone.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 15:09     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:Even a patriarchal, conservative place like India has no issues with IVF and abortion is legal up to 20 weeks and under exceptional circumstances up to 24 weeks. I can't even wrap my head around what is happening in the U.S.


It’s like a magic trick where the magician distracts the audience to do the trick.

Here the GOP is distracting the voters with culture wars while they fill their pockets with tax dollars and graft.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 15:06     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:Even a patriarchal, conservative place like India has no issues with IVF and abortion is legal up to 20 weeks and under exceptional circumstances up to 24 weeks. I can't even wrap my head around what is happening in the U.S.


It's the tyranny of the minority and this November we need to put a stop to it.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 15:00     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Even a patriarchal, conservative place like India has no issues with IVF and abortion is legal up to 20 weeks and under exceptional circumstances up to 24 weeks. I can't even wrap my head around what is happening in the U.S.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 14:51     Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too

Anonymous wrote:Senate Republicans have blocked a Democratic-led bill to codify broad federal protections for IVF.

Before the vote, GOP senators said they favor legal IVF but prefer a narrower bill that Democrats called ineffectual.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-block-democratic-bill-protect-ivf-nationwide-rcna156416?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=666b3e7c33dadb0001abf5e1&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


Of course they have.