Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:32
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
In reality Biden and the moderate dems have negotiated against their own interests. They have made concessions and cuts when they did not have to do anything. This is a total and complete victory for the republicans.
I hear McCarthy has forced the Senate to require 75 votes for anything to pass. This is a soft coup. Too bad the dems tired their own hands.
It's in the country's interest not to borrow trillions of dollars a year. Dems should have done what GOP is doing now, when Trump was President. But they just want more and more government.
There is an annual budget process followed by multiple annual appropriations bills and periodic program authorization bills. Those are frequent opportunities to reassess and revise taxes and spending and needs and debt and anything else. Raising the debt ceiling is not a budget vote. It should not be controversial. It should be a unanimous vote with nothing else attached. Fight over appropriations in appropriations bills.
The Democrats passed the budget in the lame duck, when Republicans were not in position to negotiate. And of course when the appropriations bills come up(a process that hasn't been used in 15 years), you will be complaining that they are shutting down the government rather than making a deal.
Lame duck? Is there a special rule that means certain budgets don't count?
Congress passed a budget. Now it needs to honor that budget. When the GOP passed the Trump tax cut, we didn't play this crap.
These Republicans didn't pass that budget.
Legislators don’t get to just ignore laws passed by previous Congresses. A budget is a law.
Or do you just love anarchy?
Budgets are not enacted laws.
Yes they are, lol.
Congress can pass spending bills without a budget.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:26
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It takes two to tango. Democrats are going to have to accept significant compromises. Not sure why they act as if it is their way or the door. They don't hold Congress. Republicans do. Isn't that the whole point of a divided government?
Biden needs to invoke the 14th Amendment and shut down the anarchist GOP in the House. The GOP is misguided and doesn’t represent Americans.
+1 then if the GOP sues, it will be clear which party actively created the ensuing recession
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:24
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:It takes two to tango. Democrats are going to have to accept significant compromises. Not sure why they act as if it is their way or the door. They don't hold Congress. Republicans do. Isn't that the whole point of a divided government?
And yet, when the roles were reversed, the Dems did not play the same game with Trump.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:23
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:It takes two to tango. Democrats are going to have to accept significant compromises. Not sure why they act as if it is their way or the door. They don't hold Congress. Republicans do. Isn't that the whole point of a divided government?
Republicans have a slim majority in the lower chamber. Dems control the Senate and the White House. That’s not evenly divided.
Sure, the Dems will need to accept some compromises for appropriations to pass the House but the GOP is not getting everything they want. And the debt ceiling should not be up for debate; the time to stop that spending was last year.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:22
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:It takes two to tango. Democrats are going to have to accept significant compromises. Not sure why they act as if it is their way or the door. They don't hold Congress. Republicans do. Isn't that the whole point of a divided government?
Biden needs to invoke the 14th Amendment and shut down the anarchist GOP in the House. The GOP is misguided and doesn’t represent Americans.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:08
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
It takes two to tango. Democrats are going to have to accept significant compromises. Not sure why they act as if it is their way or the door. They don't hold Congress. Republicans do. Isn't that the whole point of a divided government?
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:08
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Question to Republicans: Do you understand that defaulting not only doesn't make government obligations go away, it will screw up the US bond rating, meaning debts will start costing even more than they do now?
Yes, they do. The chaos and point are the point.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:07
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Question to Republicans: Do you understand that defaulting not only doesn't make government obligations go away, it will screw up the US bond rating, meaning debts will start costing even more than they do now?
And that it will put millions out of work and into poverty? I mean it’s just not serious.
As for the budget, tell us what you want to stop spending on. We can negotiate but you have to be willing to say what you want.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:06
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
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If you think that, you aren’t educated enough to have opinions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
In reality Biden and the moderate dems have negotiated against their own interests. They have made concessions and cuts when they did not have to do anything. This is a total and complete victory for the republicans.
I hear McCarthy has forced the Senate to require 75 votes for anything to pass. This is a soft coup. Too bad the dems tired their own hands.
It's in the country's interest not to borrow trillions of dollars a year. Dems should have done what GOP is doing now, when Trump was President. But they just want more and more government.
There is an annual budget process followed by multiple annual appropriations bills and periodic program authorization bills. Those are frequent opportunities to reassess and revise taxes and spending and needs and debt and anything else. Raising the debt ceiling is not a budget vote. It should not be controversial. It should be a unanimous vote with nothing else attached. Fight over appropriations in appropriations bills.
The Democrats passed the budget in the lame duck, when Republicans were not in position to negotiate. And of course when the appropriations bills come up(a process that hasn't been used in 15 years), you will be complaining that they are shutting down the government rather than making a deal.
Lame duck? Is there a special rule that means certain budgets don't count?
Congress passed a budget. Now it needs to honor that budget. When the GOP passed the Trump tax cut, we didn't play this crap.
These Republicans didn't pass that budget.
Legislators don’t get to just ignore laws passed by previous Congresses. A budget is a law.
Or do you just love anarchy?
Budgets are not enacted laws.
If you think that, you aren’t educated enough to have opinions.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 11:02
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
In reality Biden and the moderate dems have negotiated against their own interests. They have made concessions and cuts when they did not have to do anything. This is a total and complete victory for the republicans.
I hear McCarthy has forced the Senate to require 75 votes for anything to pass. This is a soft coup. Too bad the dems tired their own hands.
It's in the country's interest not to borrow trillions of dollars a year. Dems should have done what GOP is doing now, when Trump was President. But they just want more and more government.
There is an annual budget process followed by multiple annual appropriations bills and periodic program authorization bills. Those are frequent opportunities to reassess and revise taxes and spending and needs and debt and anything else. Raising the debt ceiling is not a budget vote. It should not be controversial. It should be a unanimous vote with nothing else attached. Fight over appropriations in appropriations bills.
The Democrats passed the budget in the lame duck, when Republicans were not in position to negotiate. And of course when the appropriations bills come up(a process that hasn't been used in 15 years), you will be complaining that they are shutting down the government rather than making a deal.
Lame duck? Is there a special rule that means certain budgets don't count?
Congress passed a budget. Now it needs to honor that budget. When the GOP passed the Trump tax cut, we didn't play this crap.
These Republicans didn't pass that budget.
Legislators don’t get to just ignore laws passed by previous Congresses. A budget is a law.
Or do you just love anarchy?
Budgets are not enacted laws.
Yes they are, lol.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 10:52
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Question to Republicans: Do you understand that defaulting not only doesn't make government obligations go away, it will screw up the US bond rating, meaning debts will start costing even more than they do now?
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/21/2023 10:49
Subject: Re:Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
In reality Biden and the moderate dems have negotiated against their own interests. They have made concessions and cuts when they did not have to do anything. This is a total and complete victory for the republicans.
I hear McCarthy has forced the Senate to require 75 votes for anything to pass. This is a soft coup. Too bad the dems tired their own hands.
It's in the country's interest not to borrow trillions of dollars a year. Dems should have done what GOP is doing now, when Trump was President. But they just want more and more government.
There is an annual budget process followed by multiple annual appropriations bills and periodic program authorization bills. Those are frequent opportunities to reassess and revise taxes and spending and needs and debt and anything else. Raising the debt ceiling is not a budget vote. It should not be controversial. It should be a unanimous vote with nothing else attached. Fight over appropriations in appropriations bills.
The Democrats passed the budget in the lame duck, when Republicans were not in position to negotiate. And of course when the appropriations bills come up(a process that hasn't been used in 15 years), you will be complaining that they are shutting down the government rather than making a deal.
Lame duck? Is there a special rule that means certain budgets don't count?
Congress passed a budget. Now it needs to honor that budget. When the GOP passed the Trump tax cut, we didn't play this crap.
These Republicans didn't pass that budget.
Legislators don’t get to just ignore laws passed by previous Congresses. A budget is a law.
Or do you just love anarchy?
Budgets are not enacted laws.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 10:44
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
Anonymous wrote:I’m so annoyed by the work requirements for Medicaid. I have to decertify my elderly mother because she is on Medicaid & Medicare for her nursing home. She cannot feed herself. She barely can speak. But I have to certify that she cannot hold a job! So stupid. Massive paperwork. I thought the GOP wanted to reduce regulations? I’m surprised they aren’t for medically-assisted suicide.
Re-certify. They want to inflict this on more nursing home residents as part of the debt ceiling.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 10:43
Subject: Republicans and the debt ceiling
I’m so annoyed by the work requirements for Medicaid. I have to decertify my elderly mother because she is on Medicaid & Medicare for her nursing home. She cannot feed herself. She barely can speak. But I have to certify that she cannot hold a job! So stupid. Massive paperwork. I thought the GOP wanted to reduce regulations? I’m surprised they aren’t for medically-assisted suicide.