Anonymous
08/03/2023 17:05
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:https://jenhatmaker.com/events/
I’m just going to leave this here. Wow.
Ugh. Double and triple ugh.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 15:16
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
I am from Texas.
All of these churches that spring up from the vision of people who 'feel call to lead' are suspect. They are all to feed the ego of the leader(s). There are plenty of established churches to attend but you have to give up control and make it not about you.
All of these churches that spring up from the vision of people who 'feel call to lead' are suspect. They are all to feed the ego of the leader(s). There are plenty of established churches to attend but you have to give up control and make it not about you.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 15:07
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous
08/02/2023 18:55
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Jen literally built a church in her own image and even that wasn’t enough to overcome her monumental pride and arrogance.
When she compared her suffering from having her books pulled from LifeWay store shelves to Jesus' crucifixion on Good Friday, I half-expected lightning to strike Austin. Whoa.
This X1000.
Had only read her a little, like "7", but when I saw that "Now I know how real betrayal feels, just like Jesus" post, my first thought was "that girl's not right".
Wish she would get some help.
When she compared her suffering from having her books pulled from LifeWay store shelves to Jesus' crucifixion on Good Friday, I half-expected lightning to strike Austin. Whoa.
This X1000.
Had only read her a little, like "7", but when I saw that "Now I know how real betrayal feels, just like Jesus" post, my first thought was "that girl's not right".
Wish she would get some help.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:18
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Alison was very sweet. Jason was odd, smarmy, and way too eager to please Jen.
Plus, for a Christian preacher he really seemed to dislike Christianity.
Plus, for a Christian preacher he really seemed to dislike Christianity.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 10:59
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also ex ANCer. My family left after we did the few months of bible study/listening to other voices/reading a few books. We just could not agree on this so we left, leaving behind a couple of our very good friends. (Who have kept us in the loop)
A couple of things I do know:
One, Trey spoke at dale lear’s funeral. Dale had left the church for the same reasons as our family. But Trey continued a relationship with him. I’m guessing his kids ask him to be a part of his funeral. I was there so I know this to be true.
Two, I’m not Jen’s biggest fan either, and hate all the shilling, but she was always great with the homeless community when I was at the grillouts. Always giving giant hugs and in deep conversation with people I was scared to get too close to. I’ve seen her put shoes on some nasty feet when we did our Easter shoe giveaways. She has a lot of flaws, but I’ve only witnessed her seeming to really love people.
I also know for a fact that when Dale Lear was in the hospital with a brain tumor, not one “pastor” or church staff or definitely not all-the-feels Jen went to visit him or even call and the Lears were very hurt.
Once o had a conversation with another church member:
“If our family were in an accident in the middle of the night and seriously injured, would we call Brandon? Nah. Jen? Nah. Tray? (Insert hysterical laughter).”
Jason???
He wouldn’t even know who you were despite eight or nine exchanges.
Former ANC here. I noticed that Jason has scrubbed all mention of his wife Alison from his ANC bio. Sad considering they had 5 daughters and she was really kind and decent.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 16:10
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Jen literally built a church in her own image and even that wasn’t enough to overcome her monumental pride and arrogance.
When she compared her suffering from having her books pulled from LifeWay store shelves to Jesus' crucifixion on Good Friday, I half-expected lightning to strike Austin. Whoa.
Churches are such an easy cash grab for folks- I'd love to see some forensic accounting on ANC. Not that they had megachuch megabucks but still- easy pickins for unethical folks.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 12:13
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
There is a great story here. How wolves in sheep’s clothing created a church as a platform for personal gain. We all can agree that this happens in conservative churches all the time but what about an expose of a progressive, formally reasonably conservative church? Who are these people? Why did they really do? What really happened? Get people on record. Was ANC really on the up and up when it came to their affirmation “shift”?
Talk to former members who were founding families.
Look into the whole Lake Hills Situation. What really happened?
Investigate the Legacy Collective. Even a little bit of light on this enterprise would be interesting.
Christianity Today used investigate stories like Tbilisi. Not sure anymore. Maybe World Magazine?
Talk to former members who were founding families.
Look into the whole Lake Hills Situation. What really happened?
Investigate the Legacy Collective. Even a little bit of light on this enterprise would be interesting.
Christianity Today used investigate stories like Tbilisi. Not sure anymore. Maybe World Magazine?
Anonymous
08/01/2023 11:44
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Jen literally built a church in her own image and even that wasn’t enough to overcome her monumental pride and arrogance.
This all predates ANC too. Their previous church where Brandon was on staff. Lake Hills in Austin.
The one that had “lost its way”, was too much about the “surface and appearances”.
The one that Jen and Brandon just had to leave to form a “new church” that finally got it right.
Many many stories here too and many MANY hurt people.
This all predates ANC too. Their previous church where Brandon was on staff. Lake Hills in Austin.
The one that had “lost its way”, was too much about the “surface and appearances”.
The one that Jen and Brandon just had to leave to form a “new church” that finally got it right.
Many many stories here too and many MANY hurt people.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 11:19
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Bookmark this thread for the next time Jen laments at how much “the church” has hurt HER.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 10:57
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also ex ANCer. My family left after we did the few months of bible study/listening to other voices/reading a few books. We just could not agree on this so we left, leaving behind a couple of our very good friends. (Who have kept us in the loop)
A couple of things I do know:
One, Trey spoke at dale lear’s funeral. Dale had left the church for the same reasons as our family. But Trey continued a relationship with him. I’m guessing his kids ask him to be a part of his funeral. I was there so I know this to be true.
Two, I’m not Jen’s biggest fan either, and hate all the shilling, but she was always great with the homeless community when I was at the grillouts. Always giving giant hugs and in deep conversation with people I was scared to get too close to. I’ve seen her put shoes on some nasty feet when we did our Easter shoe giveaways. She has a lot of flaws, but I’ve only witnessed her seeming to really love people.
I also know for a fact that when Dale Lear was in the hospital with a brain tumor, not one “pastor” or church staff or definitely not all-the-feels Jen went to visit him or even call and the Lears were very hurt.
Once o had a conversation with another church member:
“If our family were in an accident in the middle of the night and seriously injured, would we call Brandon? Nah. Jen? Nah. Tray? (Insert hysterical laughter).”
Jason???
He wouldn’t even know who you were despite eight or nine exchanges.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 10:22
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Also ex ANCer. My family left after we did the few months of bible study/listening to other voices/reading a few books. We just could not agree on this so we left, leaving behind a couple of our very good friends. (Who have kept us in the loop)
A couple of things I do know:
One, Trey spoke at dale lear’s funeral. Dale had left the church for the same reasons as our family. But Trey continued a relationship with him. I’m guessing his kids ask him to be a part of his funeral. I was there so I know this to be true.
Two, I’m not Jen’s biggest fan either, and hate all the shilling, but she was always great with the homeless community when I was at the grillouts. Always giving giant hugs and in deep conversation with people I was scared to get too close to. I’ve seen her put shoes on some nasty feet when we did our Easter shoe giveaways. She has a lot of flaws, but I’ve only witnessed her seeming to really love people.
I also know for a fact that when Dale Lear was in the hospital with a brain tumor, not one “pastor” or church staff or definitely not all-the-feels Jen went to visit him or even call and the Lears were very hurt.
Once o had a conversation with another church member:
“If our family were in an accident in the middle of the night and seriously injured, would we call Brandon? Nah. Jen? Nah. Tray? (Insert hysterical laughter).”
Anonymous
08/01/2023 10:17
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Yes Jen seems to get along fine with the older two but they seem pretty self sufficient . Having a kid on the spectrum means you have to love them as they can receive it. I’m very huggy but I need to rein it in for my high functioning daughter .
Same. Ugh. It’s so hard. Even harder is not taking everything she says personally.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 08:55
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
Anonymous
08/01/2023 07:28
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Tray isn’t all bad, though. He appears to be a devoted husband and father.
As a pastor, though, no bueno.
As a pastor, though, no bueno.