Anonymous
09/18/2025 00:30
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Both sides wanted that terrorism clause gone. Plus helps Erik in the fall election.
Now we have a nice straightforward premeditated murder case and trial.
Planned, plotted, executed, inscribed bullets, bag with fake money, escape and manhunt.
NY didn't really want to prove it, but they wanted to keep it on the table to maintain relevancy compared to the federal charges.
Without the terrorism charge, Mangione will be eligible for parole, eventually, on the state charges. The federal case will almost certainly yield a life sentence without parole. As a result, Mangione will likely end up serving his sentence in federal prison.
How many states have premeditated murder as Murder 2?
Most have that as Murder 1 and stronger charges.
NY downgraded it so it could upgrade terrorism deaths and killing police officers.
Glad the Fed case is there to right size that plotted murder 1 charge.
It isn't that different. Plenty of other states have parole-eligible sentences for their murder 1 statutes, requiring additional aggravating circumstances to impose LWOP.
The premeditated murder charges state by state stuff came out in December when everyone was shocked NY had it as Murder 2 only. Then a few weeks later they bumped it up to Murder 1 linked with the terrorism & stalking stuff.
Either way with the stalking, planning, murder, silencer, 3D gun, grossing state lines before and after, fake ID, running away manhunt he’ll get additive and max sentencing for each remaining charge.
Right, but again, New York's laws and penalties aren't that different from other states. The label is just different.
And no, the sentences on state charges probably won't run consecutively. Fleeing conceivably might, but that isn't all that long anyway.
Regardless, the state sentence will be parole-eligible. The federal sentence will not. So he's going to serve his sentence in federal prison.
Anonymous
09/17/2025 20:10
Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Gun violence or violence by MAGA?
Breaking news - 3 officers killed in shooting in central Pennsylvania and 2 officers in critical condition, officials say.
Shooting suspect is dead. Praying to God that this shooter is also a gun-nut, MAGA. Otherwise, non-Whites are in danger in this lawless country.
Non whites? What about white ladies on trains?
Anonymous
09/17/2025 20:02
Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Gun violence or violence by MAGA?
Breaking news - 3 officers killed in shooting in central Pennsylvania and 2 officers in critical condition, officials say.
Shooting suspect is dead. Praying to God that this shooter is also a gun-nut, MAGA. Otherwise, non-Whites are in danger in this lawless country.
Breaking news - 3 officers killed in shooting in central Pennsylvania and 2 officers in critical condition, officials say.
Shooting suspect is dead. Praying to God that this shooter is also a gun-nut, MAGA. Otherwise, non-Whites are in danger in this lawless country.
Anonymous
09/17/2025 19:59
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Thank God - both of these killers are White men. Otherwise, MAGA would have done major bloodshed on the street.
Anonymous
09/17/2025 19:56
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Luigi is hot.
And he will never darken your door.