Anonymous wrote:

The stupor of amnesia. The culprits that dragged the country into this economic mess were largely products of "elite and choosy" prep schools, "well rounded and balanced folk", for whom PSAT scores did not matter (despite tutoring).

Please don't bring George Bush into this. He's not responsible for the economic crisis.

OMG, you can't possibly be serious? How much are we hemorraghing on those wars EACH day?

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the great data. Hopefully that will put a stop to crazy TJ lady's bizarre posts. Those numbers are really impressive. Now I only hope my son is accepted!

Only with a noble score -- WPSSI 99.9 percentile. Does DS have this ribbon yet?

No, but he's in 8th grade so I bet he'd do pretty well on the WPSSI. Of course I'd get the prep materials to make sure he knows how to stack blocks.

Anonymous wrote:

The stupor of amnesia. The culprits that dragged the country into this economic mess were largely products of "elite and choosy" prep schools, "well rounded and balanced folk", for whom PSAT scores did not matter (despite tutoring).

Please don't bring George Bush into this. He's not responsible for the economic crisis.

Since you mentioned, Bush, of course he is responsible (in large part) for the economic crisis--not to mention the war.

"sta -- I detest public schools with all of their dumb state-mandated rules/tests."

Doesn't really affect the kids in the magnet programs as you have already acknowledged their innate brilliance. I suspect these dumb tests are a simple walk in the park for these highly select students (without needs for tutoring and test prep). But, I can how students may get bogged down with all the preparation and focus.

sta -- I detest public schools with all of their dumb state-mandated rules/tests.

STA is an excellent school. In yesteryears, I would have pushed for my children to try STA. Today, if they had the opportunity (and they don't, since we don't live in Fairfax County and we're not moving) I would favor TJ. Hands down. I hope you understand, in the final analysis it boils down to individual fit since both schools, amongst a bushel of others (private and public) in the area, are excellent institutions.

Anonymous wrote:sta -- I detest public schools with all of their dumb state-mandated rules/tests.

Do you detest public schools or the politicians who mandate these tests? Focus your ire on the real culprits here.

sta -- I detest public schools with all of their dumb state-mandated rules/tests.

Ok, DCUMs . . . if you had the choice, would you rather have your son be a TJ or STA graduate. Be honest.

I rest my case.

For the 21st century, unequivocally, TJ -- hands down.

Ok, DCUMs . . . if you had the choice, would you rather have your son be a TJ or STA graduate. Be honest.

I rest my case.

You can't duck. Answer the question posed since you know quite abit about Princeton.

Ok, DCUMs . . . if you had the choice, would you rather have your son be a TJ or STA graduate. Be honest.

I rest my case.

The previous PP is simply wrong. Wall Street has been filled for years with the b and b from our elite colleges, universities and graduate schools. At one point, over half of the Princeton graduates went to Wall Street. These are super smart people, whether they be lawyers, investment bankers, etc, who thought they fully understood the highly complicated financial instruments they created and traded. The fact is that they did NOT understand, and their arrogance lead directly to the current economic mess. While Bush no doubt will go down as one of the worst Presidents in the last century, and while Bush's failure to support any additional regulation of the financial industry did not help, Bush did not create the financial instruments that created the problem. I say again that super smarts does not necessarily correlate with judgment and values.

Multiple choice question for PP (choose only one best answer):

Are these culprits largely products of

a. prep schools
b. public schools
c. homeschools

Anonymous wrote:

What is particularly sad about this thread is the tone! Obviously, the statistical information is useful but I should suggest it is not and should not be determinative. Hopefully, there is more to education than stats. Moreover, scoring well on tests bears little resemblance to hopefully other more relevant characteristics such as judgment and values. By focusing so much on these sorts of stats only creates a sense that one really is among the best and brightests. I hope we can appreciate that that arrogance only creates its own issues. Let's just look at the Harvard MBAs and MIT PhDs on Wall Street who almost destroyed our economy. No doubt, they scored well on their PSATs, and we know their arrogance and belief that they had it all figured out are substantially responsible for our current economic situation.

The stupor of amnesia. The culprits that dragged the country into this economic mess were largely products of "elite and choosy" prep schools, "well rounded and balanced folk", for whom PSAT scores did not matter (despite tutoring).

The previous PP is simply wrong. Wall Street has been filled for years with the b and b from our elite colleges, universities and graduate schools. At one point, over half of the Princeton graduates went to Wall Street. These are super smart people, whether they be lawyers, investment bankers, etc, who thought they fully understood the highly complicated financial instruments they created and traded. The fact is that they did NOT understand, and their arrogance lead directly to the current economic mess. While Bush no doubt will go down as one of the worst Presidents in the last century, and while Bush's failure to support any additional regulation of the financial industry did not help, Bush did not create the financial instruments that created the problem. I say again that super smarts does not necessarily correlate with judgment and values.

The stupor of amnesia. The culprits that dragged the country into this economic mess were largely products of "elite and choosy" prep schools, "well rounded and balanced folk", for whom PSAT scores did not matter (despite tutoring).

Please don't bring George Bush into this. He's not responsible for the economic crisis.

What is particularly sad about this thread is the tone! Obviously, the statistical information is useful but I should suggest it is not and should not be determinative. Hopefully, there is more to education than stats. Moreover, scoring well on tests bears little resemblance to hopefully other more relevant characteristics such as judgment and values. By focusing so much on these sorts of stats only creates a sense that one really is among the best and brightests. I hope we can appreciate that that arrogance only creates its own issues. Let's just look at the Harvard MBAs and MIT PhDs on Wall Street who almost destroyed our economy. No doubt, they scored well on their PSATs, and we know their arrogance and belief that they had it all figured out are substantially responsible for our current economic situation.

The stupor of amnesia. The culprits that dragged the country into this economic mess were largely products of "elite and choosy" prep schools, "well rounded and balanced folk", for whom PSAT scores did not matter (despite tutoring).

Thanks for the great data. Hopefully that will put a stop to crazy TJ lady's bizarre posts. Those numbers are really impressive. Now I only hope my son is accepted!

Only with a noble score -- WPSSI 99.9 percentile. Does DS have this ribbon yet?