Anonymous
06/11/2015 19:44
Subject: Re:Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.
Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.
Oh.my.god.
SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.
When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.
Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.
Oh boy. I'm pretty sure if an officer tells you to get your ass out of here, it goes without saying that you should keep your mouth shut and leave as soon as possible. I understand he did drag her back after she ran her mouth. Totally inexcusable, BUT, we also have to respect authority and not mouth-off, particularly in a high-stress situation like this.
Every time you say "totally inexcusable, BUT..." the BUT renders the first two words obsolete. Your "BUT" implies that, in fact, the actions were excusable because the teenager should have known better than to respond the way she did.
When I was a teenager, some friends and I were in a park. We weren't doing anything wrong. We were just hanging out after school. Cop on patrol stopped, asked us what we were doing. We responded "hanging out" and he suggested that we "move along." Our actual response was "Why? It's a public park and we're not doing anything wrong."
No one was thrown to the ground and no one pulled a gun. That said, we were all white.
How are old you? No snark, just curiosity. I was born early 70s and was taught to respect authority and not question it, so even if I hadn't been doing anything wrong I wouldn't have questioned the instruction. I generally thought the kids of my generation felt the same way but I am willing to admit I could be totally wrong.
This is an excellent point. I grew up in the 80s and would never dream of mouthing off to a cop or teacher or coach or anyone in a position of authority, even if they were in the wrong.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 19:30
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
That's not a very convincing answer.
Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.
I am also not convinced.
You are asking me to support an assertion that I did not make. The person who makes claims about the Chief's knowledge should be the one to support their assertions.
On 6/11 you stated that the police chief said he actions are "indefensible", and you imagined there was no reason for his actions. Knowing what you know now, do you think being on the scene with brains spattered to a wall the same day is a reason for his actions? I can't imagine a boss that is so insensitive to an employee that he knew he spent hours with family of a dead man who had brains spattered on the wall and then went on to defame his character.
Maybe the chief is that stupid, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
And that was just one of two suicide calls. The other was a girl who they had to talk down.
These were the two calls he answered:
Bishkin said Casebolt had responded to a suicide call where, “at an apartment complex, an African American male shot himself in the head at a pool side in the complex.” She said the suicide was in the presence of the victim’s family, children, other parents and other children. Bishkin said Casebolt helped secure the scene and photograph the body, and “spent a considerable amount of time consoling the man’s grieving widow.”
His next call was for a teen threatening to commit suicide by jumping off a roof. Bishkin said Casebolt calmed the girl down and talked her out of jumping so that she could be safely transported to the hospital.
But go ahead and continue to malign his character y'all. And that you to the PP above who is treating Casebolt with the compassion he deserves.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 19:26
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
That's not a very convincing answer.
Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.
I am also not convinced.
You are asking me to support an assertion that I did not make. The person who makes claims about the Chief's knowledge should be the one to support their assertions.
On 6/11 you stated that the police chief said he actions are "indefensible", and you imagined there was no reason for his actions. Knowing what you know now, do you think being on the scene with brains spattered to a wall the same day is a reason for his actions? I can't imagine a boss that is so insensitive to an employee that he knew he spent hours with family of a dead man who had brains spattered on the wall and then went on to defame his character.
Maybe the chief is that stupid, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
jsteele
06/11/2015 19:19
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
That's not a very convincing answer.
Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.
I am also not convinced.
You are asking me to support an assertion that I did not make. The person who makes claims about the Chief's knowledge should be the one to support their assertions.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 19:09
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
That's not a very convincing answer.
Do you have information that the chief was informed of the 2 suicide calls that the officer handled. Did I miss that news report.
I am also not convinced.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 19:05
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Too bad your pass is worthless cause it won't get him his job back.
Or better yet, thank goodness your pass is worthless lol.
Actually he chose to quit. He could get his job back, he didn't do anything illegal. Also, he will probably sue for defamation of character, since the chief tried and convicted him without an investigation.
I am guessing they will settle out of court.
He assaulted a teenager. That's illegal.
No he didn't. He handcuffed a teenager. Actually, about 10 teenagers were handcuffed. Maybe he did not "follow procedure" but he did not "assault" a teen.
Do you have a link to charging documents?
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:58
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Yeah but
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-sued-2008-accused-abusing-driver-article-1.2251191
....
Brown claimed Casebolt racially profiled him in 2007...
...
Brown, who was jailed on drug charges,....
Druggies are incredibly reliable dontchaknow. And it's a disease. Brown is a victim.......not.......
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:56
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Too bad your pass is worthless cause it won't get him his job back.
Or better yet, thank goodness your pass is worthless lol.
Liberal activism at its best. Empathy only goes one way and only for people you approve of.
jsteele
06/11/2015 18:41
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
That's not a very convincing answer.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:39
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Too bad your pass is worthless cause it won't get him his job back.
Or better yet, thank goodness your pass is worthless lol.
Actually he chose to quit. He could get his job back, he didn't do anything illegal. Also, he will probably sue for defamation of character, since the chief tried and convicted him without an investigation.
I am guessing they will settle out of court.
He assaulted a teenager. That's illegal.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:36
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Because the chief had a press conference where he said the investigation is being transferred to Internal Affairs. Even if he had this 1 piece of information, he does not have all of the information. I doubt the chief had the information, he is a politician, not a LEO.
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:34
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Too bad your pass is worthless cause it won't get him his job back.
Or better yet, thank goodness your pass is worthless lol.
Actually he chose to quit. He could get his job back, he didn't do anything illegal. Also, he will probably sue for defamation of character, since the chief tried and convicted him without an investigation.
I am guessing they will settle out of court.
jsteele
06/11/2015 18:34
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.
What makes you think the chief didn't?
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:33
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Yeah but
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-sued-2008-accused-abusing-driver-article-1.2251191
....
Brown claimed Casebolt racially profiled him in 2007...
...
Brown, who was jailed on drug charges,....
Anonymous
06/11/2015 18:33
Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.
I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.
Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.
Too bad your pass is worthless cause it won't get him his job back.
Or better yet, thank goodness your pass is worthless lol.