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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

So they elected to live right next to Herndon (many with Herndon addresses), do nothing about rising crime in their own area, and then have the rest of us pay to send their kids off to school somewhere else so they don't have to deal with the problems at home?

Problems at home? 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

Franklin Farm families and neighborhoos families that want to leave Oakton:

Please also reconsider what is best for your kids: convenience for adults. Vs. Safety for kids

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

So they elected to live right next to Herndon (many with Herndon addresses), do nothing about rising crime in their own area, and then have the rest of us pay to send their kids off to school somewhere else so they don't have to deal with the problems at home?

How many Governors have come out of Oakton? Governor Elect Mikie Sherri is a South Lakes grad, class of 1990.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Great Falls families sound like snobs because they don’t want their kids to go to Herndon High which had a student recently murdered in a drive-by after receiving death threats at Herndon High from fellow students?

Call me crazy, but that doesn’t sound snobby to me. Sounds like great falls families want their kids to be safe from violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

People want what they feel is best for their kids and that may require a longer bus ride.

Building resilience is awesome 👌

Anonymous wrote:Are you from SLHS, Westfield, or are you from Chantilly. Which one of the school is better than Oakton?

One thing for sure is that your kids is going to KAA and you are upset to hear that KAA can not be better than Oakton.

I think you are expecting a KAA to be the only top tier school in west part of fcps. The only way KAA can be the top tier is to become a magnet school.

I was asked why people have a problem with the Oakton families pitch, and the issue is you sound like elitists who think that the other kids being moved to the new school are going to be beneath you.

You do realize that there are people with kids at SLHS who wouldn't want to be moved to Oakton, right? Different people value different things. SLHS has a strong community and lots of kids have had a great experience there. The families are not worried about the rating and there are plenty of kids going to strong colleges. There are even people who love IB. The SLHS families I know worried about being moved are concerned about the lack of programs in the first bunch of years but mainly feel like they are a part of a strong community. They know that will build over time but the genuinely love their school.

The difference is when they talk about their school, they don't sound like elitists who are hoping and praying that their kids are not moved from the school to a school that is beneath them. Oakton families that don't want to move sound like they are going to be punished by having to go to a HS with kids from Oak Hill, Floris, and Coates. Great Falls families have the same problem. They sound like snobs. The argument that your kids should be at a school that is a 30-40 minute bus drive when there is a school 10 minutes away is kind of ridiculous. And your logic for why you should stay there is that the other schools aren't as good and you don't want to go there.

If you can't understand why that sounds bad, then I don't know what to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

I doubt that the school board will create a split feeder so the people who are loudly fighting to stay at Oakton are effectively impacting the outcome of the families who want to move. I think that the bigger issue is that the Oakton families are claiming to speak for the majority and it is not clear that they do.

As a non-Crossfield family, I don't care. The argument that Oakton is so amazing, and the new school is not going to be good enough is off putting. There is a difference in saying "We don't like the lack of activities at a brand-new school and want to opt out while that is happening" and saying "The new school will never be good enough because Oakton is so awesome", which labels the new school as inferior before it even opens. To be frank, most of the arguments have been kind of elitist.

Makes sense.

To be honest, I’d rather let these elitist people stay at Oakton so that I don’t have to see them at the new school.

+100 I’m so thankful we don’t go to Oakton! Full of Navy parents!

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.
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I doubt that the school board will create a split feeder so the people who are loudly fighting to stay at Oakton are effectively impacting the outcome of the families who want to move. I think that the bigger issue is that the Oakton families are claiming to speak for the majority and it is not clear that they do.

As a non-Crossfield family, I don't care. The argument that Oakton is so amazing, and the new school is not going to be good enough is off putting. There is a difference in saying "We don't like the lack of activities at a brand-new school and want to opt out while that is happening" and saying "The new school will never be good enough because Oakton is so awesome", which labels the new school as inferior before it even opens. To be frank, most of the arguments have been kind of elitist. [/quote]

Good summary.

It doesn't make sense when there is a new school close by instead of busing the distance to Oakton. All over Fairfax County, families will be moved for reasons that don't make sense. Moving Franklin Farm/Crossfield to the new school is logical and makes good sense. The only reason they have given is that they like Oakton. There is no other reason cited.


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Think of it this way...
Would you take your current retirement savings or would you trade it all (your future) for what's behind door #1?

If you have millions saved and you're comfortable with that, then you'd probably say hell no, I want to keep what I've got. Of course other people have more but you're ok with what you've got. But what if you've only saved 50k, you'd probably be ok risking it all for what's behind door #1.

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Anonymous wrote:We belive it will be a good school for surrounding neighhood. We are also happy for the kids that will enjoy and benefit from the new school.

We are just happy to stay where we are now. Different people has different preference, we respect yours. I hope you will be happy for our preference too.

Maybe our kids will pay sports together at the new school.

All theses anxiety was not caused by Oakton parents, we were also forced to be brought into this out of nowhere.

Translation: the new school isn’t good enough for my special children but it will be just fine for your average kids. Please go there so mine don’t have to.

It's more like: My child is at a great school and I am happy with it. So please don't move my child. It has nothing to do with your child.

No one is making your child move from a school they already attend. The school board has all but assured that at this point. If your child isn't at the school yet, then it's "Please don't make my child go to a school that I don't think will be good enough for them. Someone has to go there, so please make sure it's someone else because it's fine for other people's kids just not mine."

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

I'm a Franklin Farm resident. My neighbors need to get a grip. Western HS/KAA is going to be a dream school.

The only thing that might be crappy is for elite athletes who could be Varsity starters all four years of high school but who might not have access to Varsity-level sports at the new school in the first year or two.

Otherwise, it's a dream! New schools often draw top talent with regard to teachers and admin, the resources (e.g., robotics lab, ceramics lab, pool, and auditorium) available are top-tier, and the commute is significantly less scary for a teen driver.

Oakton has been great, as has Chantilly for the other side of Franklin Farm. I'm sure Western/KAA will be just as good.

Academy-wise, the best Western HS could do is perform close to Chantilly. I don't see Western HS coming out of the gate (next 10 years) and getting even close to Oakton level. There is no incentive for Oakton people to leave an excellent school and go to an unknown.

I see there are gains from quality of education for Fox Mills moving to Western HS. Let's go Option B.

I'm so confused about what is just sooooo amazing about Oakton. Please share.

Nothing really. They are just elitists.

Its the lack of poor kids. Thats it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious.

I get why some Crossfield parents want to stay at Oakton despite the long commute.

I also get why some other Crossfield parents who want to move are upset at them as they'd rather move to KAA and cut the long commute.

What I don’t understand is why some non Crossfield parents are upset at the Crossfield parents who fight to stay.

Is it because of some “equity” issue? Or is it because their kids are going to KAA and they want to make sure wealthy Crossfield kids join them?

Somebody mentioned tax dollars used for longer bus rides, but that just seems like a really weak reason.

I doubt that the school board will create a split feeder so the people who are loudly fighting to stay at Oakton are effectively impacting the outcome of the families who want to move. I think that the bigger issue is that the Oakton families are claiming to speak for the majority and it is not clear that they do.

As a non-Crossfield family, I don't care. The argument that Oakton is so amazing, and the new school is not going to be good enough is off putting. There is a difference in saying "We don't like the lack of activities at a brand-new school and want to opt out while that is happening" and saying "The new school will never be good enough because Oakton is so awesome", which labels the new school as inferior before it even opens. To be frank, most of the arguments have been kind of elitist.

Makes sense.

To be honest, I’d rather let these elitist people stay at Oakton so that I don’t have to see them at the new school.

I couldn't agree more.

SAME. Unfortunately my neighbors will probably ensure we stay at Oakton. Really hoping the opt in period extends to the year my child will enter high school. I much prefer the parent community from the schools that will end up there. More down to earth.

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

I'm a Franklin Farm resident. My neighbors need to get a grip. Western HS/KAA is going to be a dream school.

The only thing that might be crappy is for elite athletes who could be Varsity starters all four years of high school but who might not have access to Varsity-level sports at the new school in the first year or two.

Otherwise, it's a dream! New schools often draw top talent with regard to teachers and admin, the resources (e.g., robotics lab, ceramics lab, pool, and auditorium) available are top-tier, and the commute is significantly less scary for a teen driver.

Oakton has been great, as has Chantilly for the other side of Franklin Farm. I'm sure Western/KAA will be just as good.

Academy-wise, the best Western HS could do is perform close to Chantilly. I don't see Western HS coming out of the gate (next 10 years) and getting even close to Oakton level. There is no incentive for Oakton people to leave an excellent school and go to an unknown.

I see there are gains from quality of education for Fox Mills moving to Western HS. Let's go Option B.

I'm so confused about what is just sooooo amazing about Oakton. Please share.

Nothing really. They are just elitists.

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Anonymous wrote:We belive it will be a good school for surrounding neighhood. We are also happy for the kids that will enjoy and benefit from the new school.

We are just happy to stay where we are now. Different people has different preference, we respect yours. I hope you will be happy for our preference too.

Maybe our kids will pay sports together at the new school.

All theses anxiety was not caused by Oakton parents, we were also forced to be brought into this out of nowhere.

Translation: the new school isn’t good enough for my special children but it will be just fine for your average kids. Please go there so mine don’t have to.

It's more like: My child is at a great school and I am happy with it. So please don't move my child. It has nothing to do with your child.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

I'm a Franklin Farm resident. My neighbors need to get a grip. Western HS/KAA is going to be a dream school.

The only thing that might be crappy is for elite athletes who could be Varsity starters all four years of high school but who might not have access to Varsity-level sports at the new school in the first year or two.

Otherwise, it's a dream! New schools often draw top talent with regard to teachers and admin, the resources (e.g., robotics lab, ceramics lab, pool, and auditorium) available are top-tier, and the commute is significantly less scary for a teen driver.

Oakton has been great, as has Chantilly for the other side of Franklin Farm. I'm sure Western/KAA will be just as good.

Academy-wise, the best Western HS could do is perform close to Chantilly. I don't see Western HS coming out of the gate (next 10 years) and getting even close to Oakton level. There is no incentive for Oakton people to leave an excellent school and go to an unknown.

I see there are gains from quality of education for Fox Mills moving to Western HS. Let's go Option B.

I'm so confused about what is just sooooo amazing about Oakton. Please share.

#6 in Virginia High Schools (660+ public and 300 private)
#9 in Washington, DC Metro Area High Schools (64 metropolitan DC HS)
#4 in Fairfax County Public Schools High Schools (FCPS has 30 HS)

So, you basically have one of the top high schools in the area. It's number 3 in FCPS if you don't count the crown jewel of the DC area, Thomas Jefferson which is a govenor's school. If given the option, why wouldn't you want to attend a top high school? Generally top high schools have a combination of a high performing student body coupled with outstanding teachers. This combination pushes the students to achieve higher and provides additonal opportunites for excellence.

To downplay it means you're either unaware of its excellence, or your kids are mediorcre.

Oh sweetie, you just had to put a nasty insult in there, didn’t you?

Do you know why good schools are highly rated? Because of their populations. I guarantee your brilliant genius snowflake child will be just as successful at KAA as they would be at Oakton.

Yes, my child is fairly average in test scores, but she’s not an entitled little twat like yours is, which I think is a huge win.

Not with the limited activities. If you don't have established programs or you have to compete against kids from you base high school, your kid might not be as successful. Dr. Reid already indicated that this would be how various sports and after school programs would be handled until a full 4 year contingent of students was present. Actually if they had the opportunity at KAA for kids to be on varsity or the various club presidents and the like to build a college resume as a 9th or 10th grader it would be awesome, but it's not the case.

Also the comment was in response to someone asking why Oakton was so great. If you're unaware of the ranking, then you might not live in the area, might not be a type of person who seeks out challenging and competitive environments for your kids to succeed in. To be honest people who don't prioritize academics, tend not to be highly competive academically, which by definition is mediocre.

Demanding high standards and having high expectations is what we all should strive for. If you're happy with less more power to you.

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Nope, nope, nope. You are picking out only one small piece of what she said. She SPECIFICALLY said that if the staff and the kids at the school want to build active clubs and extracurricular, they can and will do it. So maybe not sports (but your kid can do varsity at their base school those two years if they are such a prodigy), but theater, robotics, etc., those kids will make those things happen, and it's a great opportunity for freshman and sophomores to become leaders, and they wouldn't have those opportunities at Oakton.

Not would they have the benefit of established programs....

KAA for thee, but not for me.