Anonymous
08/10/2025 20:47
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Marketed as Late Developer.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont see bio banding listed anywhere in the MLSN Academy rules.
It’s definitely a rule. Which I know isn’t a good argument but just ask your MLSN director and he will tell you all about it.
Sold to those okay with cheating
Anonymous
08/10/2025 20:16
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
What about the kids that are at the top level, that are Q4 kids? They exist and will have a distinct advantage IF they decide to play in the new age groupings.
My kid is on a top team with a few Q4 starters. Those kids, their parents and coach think playing in their SY group will hurt their development. They will “play up” if there is a switch to SY.
There’s always going to be outliers. For the majority of q4’s, it’s easy to feel that way right now. But what’s going to happen come tryout time with the q4’s a year up show up? Not everyone’s going to survive that
Anonymous
08/10/2025 19:58
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
What about the kids that are at the top level, that are Q4 kids? They exist and will have a distinct advantage IF they decide to play in the new age groupings.
My kid is on a top team with a few Q4 starters. Those kids, their parents and coach think playing in their SY group will hurt their development. They will “play up” if there is a switch to SY.
If your kid is on a top team and playing up college coaches will want you on their team.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 19:29
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
What about the kids that are at the top level, that are Q4 kids? They exist and will have a distinct advantage IF they decide to play in the new age groupings.
My kid is on a top team with a few Q4 starters. Those kids, their parents and coach think playing in their SY group will hurt their development. They will “play up” if there is a switch to SY.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 19:12
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
What about the kids that are at the top level, that are Q4 kids? They exist and will have a distinct advantage IF they decide to play in the new age groupings.
Many of them will have to. Playing at a 18 month disadvantage is too much for most players at ECNL level. Obviously some outliers will be able to do it.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 17:23
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Just do biobanding and play one year down in MLS. A lot of parents already do that, so their mediocre kids can have a chance.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 16:39
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
What about the kids that are at the top level, that are Q4 kids? They exist and will have a distinct advantage IF they decide to play in the new age groupings.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 15:29
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure your point. ECNL is already going SY with 90+ percent of the teams in youth soccer. It's over. Everybody recruits talent and cuts kids. Whatever. All the leagues are the same, a place to take your money and to try to convince you that you should be honored. Take pride in a team not a league.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
Not a BY parent - don’t care either way - and am happy that SY relieves anguish from the trap.
But this is not a flex for ECNL to be doing what 90% of youth soccer is doing.
If we transferred this analogy to practice sessions and said “ECNL is doing the same sessions as 90% of youth soccer.” Everyone would be saying ECNL is stupid and copying rec will get rec results.
It’s only a flex if ECNL came up with idea to go back and then slowly got the majority of leagues on board. Essentially making their will forced into reality.
But I agree going along with the masses because you have to isn’t a flex it’s just standard practice.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 15:27
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.
Um….because the vast majority of parents are on the outside looking in, and think that the SY for rec + ECNL change will benefit their kid in such to such a drastic degree that they’ll then be on the inside.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 15:23
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Not sure your point. ECNL is already going SY with 90+ percent of the teams in youth soccer. It's over. Everybody recruits talent and cuts kids. Whatever. All the leagues are the same, a place to take your money and to try to convince you that you should be honored. Take pride in a team not a league.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
Not a BY parent - don’t care either way - and am happy that SY relieves anguish from the trap.
But this is not a flex for ECNL to be doing what 90% of youth soccer is doing.
If we transferred this analogy to practice sessions and said “ECNL is doing the same sessions as 90% of youth soccer.” Everyone would be saying ECNL is stupid and copying rec will get rec results.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 14:34
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Marketed as Late Developer.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont see bio banding listed anywhere in the MLSN Academy rules.
It’s definitely a rule. Which I know isn’t a good argument but just ask your MLSN director and he will tell you all about it.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 14:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Hoping for a reduction in RAE with more than one age cutoff so we can have more kids playing soccer at a higher level and more kids available for national teams. Would be nice if MLSN can stay BY but the business case doesn't make sense.Anonymous wrote:So you irrationally hate BY MLSN and Biobanding but seem to love SY and ECNL.
Yet you dont have a kid playing in boys ECNL?
Just randomly interested in the minutiae of youth soccer league details. While at the same time trying to convince people that clubs and teams matter more than leagues.
Yes I agree would probably be very helpful to have essentially two 6 month leagues which is basically what SY/BY would be. Especially in the younger ages.
I think it would only keep kids playing longer and more kids feeling encouraged to play longer. Kids can always play “up” if their SY team or BY team is not competitive enough for them.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 14:22
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:I dont see bio banding listed anywhere in the MLSN Academy rules.
It’s definitely a rule. Which I know isn’t a good argument but just ask your MLSN director and he will tell you all about it.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 14:19
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Hoping for a reduction in RAE with more than one age cutoff so we can have more kids playing soccer at a higher level and more kids available for national teams. Would be nice if MLSN can stay BY but the business case doesn't make sense.Anonymous wrote:So you irrationally hate BY MLSN and Biobanding but seem to love SY and ECNL.
Yet you dont have a kid playing in boys ECNL?
Just randomly interested in the minutiae of youth soccer league details. While at the same time trying to convince people that clubs and teams matter more than leagues.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 14:04
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is abusing the anonymity to answer their own questions no doubt. And then accuse others of “astroturfing”…we see you
Whats interesting is the militant SY poster is a boys ECNL parent. Or maybe a boys ECNL coach. You dont run into these types very often. Boys teams are more fluid than girls teams. This is why MLSN works so well. It just recruits talent from all the different leagues around them. Because of this you dont usually see boys parents emotionally tied to a specific club or league. Add in that puberty can completely change what boys are like on the field.
Since we know your kid is a boy playing in boys ECNL. What do you think you'll gain with SY? MLSN already has biobanding and for what its worth most top players are playing up 1-2 years. These are the ones that will play professionally or get college scholarship offers first. Your kid playing down because of ECNL switching from BY to SY wont become a superstar.
If the top players are already playing 1-2 years up then why is there a forum of parents concerned over an age change to SY why would anyone care? If your kid is ECNL or MLSN changing really wouldn’t matter because their kids are elite?
The answer to the question is it definitely matters because even amongst ECNL or MLSN the majority of player are not at the level to play up and be as effective. Especially when all players are talented and the skill difference is usually very small.
So now you change the age groups and introduce 6 months of older, bigger, stronger players on average which makes it even more challenging to get on the field.
Which is why some parents are hoping GA/MLSN stay BY because they don’t want their kids playing against even older players because that makes games more difficult and competitive in a soccer landscape that’s already ultra competitive.