Anonymous wrote:If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.

Hamas is virtue signaling. It’s like a gang member gaining street cred for going to jail. They want to say we took this beating and stood tall. Look how tough we are.

Israel refuses to give them any way to spin a ceasefire as a victory, so they continue to press the attack.

Neither side is thinking of the civilians.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel kills another 250 Palestinians. Even Trump acknowledges Israel is starving the population

https://stratnewsglobal.com/israel/israeli-strikes-kill-over-250-people-in-gaza-as-trump-warns-of-starvation/

Gazans continue to be slaughtered every day and posters here claim they are “psychopaths” and “full of hate” for fighting the occupation. Did you forget “Give me liberty or give me death!” or does that only count if you are an American?

Only idiots claim innocent Gazans and Israelis are the full of hate psychos. It's the IDF and Hamas who have ruined the lives of innocent people for decades.

Anonymous wrote:Israel kills another 250 Palestinians. Even Trump acknowledges Israel is starving the population

https://stratnewsglobal.com/israel/israeli-strikes-kill-over-250-people-in-gaza-as-trump-warns-of-starvation/

Gazans continue to be slaughtered every day and posters here claim they are “psychopaths” and “full of hate” for fighting the occupation. Did you forget “Give me liberty or give me death!” or does that only count if you are an American?

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Anonymous wrote:If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.

Because Israel is playing right into their hands. They want the destruction of Israel. They cannot beat Israel while Israel has the support of the world, especially the US. Israel rapidly destroying that support with every fresh war crime revealed, and every new photo of a starving child. When this is over, Israel will be a pariah state, and Jewish people will be far less safe. Hamas is getting exactly what they want, and they've shown they are perfectly willing to sacrifice their people to win. It's the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people who will lose.

This is probably correct, except that Hamas is badly miscalculating the outcome.

Israel’s far right government will claim as much land as possible, then hold it. In their calculation, they’re already unsafe, so there’s no downside.

I don’t think the world cares as much as you think it does. Israel might lose the support of a few Western nations, but it’ll hardly be a death blow.

PP. I agree. I don’t think the current Israeli government cares about world opinion and it certainly will not prevent them from taking and holding territory.

Anonymous wrote:And dont come at me for calling out Palestinians but saying, bbbbuut but but Israel started it! Israel is coming into their homes, they have no choice but to stay and get maimed. Please. If someone breaks into my house and tells me it’s their house now and that my options are to stay and starve and get my limbs blown off or I can leave, I’m leaving. Who cares that Gaza “belongs” to Palestine if this is the choice.

I don't think someone is stupid enough to actually believe this but rather just distract from the topic at hand.

Nevertheless, I'll respond. What homes are left? They are all in tents and refugee camps. You do realize that Gaza is the largest open concentration camp that's sieged of all sides right?

Israel kills another 250 Palestinians. Even Trump acknowledges Israel is starving the population

https://stratnewsglobal.com/israel/israeli-strikes-kill-over-250-people-in-gaza-as-trump-warns-of-starvation/

Anonymous wrote:And dont come at me for calling out Palestinians but saying, bbbbuut but but Israel started it! Israel is coming into their homes, they have no choice but to stay and get maimed. Please. If someone breaks into my house and tells me it’s their house now and that my options are to stay and starve and get my limbs blown off or I can leave, I’m leaving. Who cares that Gaza “belongs” to Palestine if this is the choice.

Native Americans made this difficult choice. Not a situation that makes me proud of my fellow humans

And dont come at me for calling out Palestinians but saying, bbbbuut but but Israel started it! Israel is coming into their homes, they have no choice but to stay and get maimed. Please. If someone breaks into my house and tells me it’s their house now and that my options are to stay and starve and get my limbs blown off or I can leave, I’m leaving. Who cares that Gaza “belongs” to Palestine if this is the choice.

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Anonymous wrote:If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.

Because Israel is playing right into their hands. They want the destruction of Israel. They cannot beat Israel while Israel has the support of the world, especially the US. Israel rapidly destroying that support with every fresh war crime revealed, and every new photo of a starving child. When this is over, Israel will be a pariah state, and Jewish people will be far less safe. Hamas is getting exactly what they want, and they've shown they are perfectly willing to sacrifice their people to win. It's the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people who will lose.

This is probably correct, except that Hamas is badly miscalculating the outcome.

Israel’s far right government will claim as much land as possible, then hold it. In their calculation, they’re already unsafe, so there’s no downside.

I don’t think the world cares as much as you think it does. Israel might lose the support of a few Western nations, but it’ll hardly be a death blow.

Mannnnn I saw that Miss Rachel was speaking out on behalf of that adorable Palestinian girl who lost her legs.

And I thought, dang Miss Rachel doesn’t know she’s being used. Her heart is in the right place. What’s happening to those children is horrific. But this is what they want.

Israel obviously wants all Palestinian children dead because they are psychopaths. But Hamas is no better. They were probably thrilled when her legs got blown off so they could parade her around for sympathy. They’re using HUMAN BEINGS as fodder in their war against Israel. Both sides are disgusting.

When that girl grows up I hope she realizes how both sides are full of hate.

Israelis are terrible. I really think they’re psychopaths. But so are Palestinians, in a much more subversive way. They refuse do basic things like not kidnap Israelis and in the process they’re creating an environment where children are getting their legs blown off. Way to go dudes.

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Anonymous wrote:If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.

Because Israel is playing right into their hands. They want the destruction of Israel. They cannot beat Israel while Israel has the support of the world, especially the US. Israel rapidly destroying that support with every fresh war crime revealed, and every new photo of a starving child. When this is over, Israel will be a pariah state, and Jewish people will be far less safe. Hamas is getting exactly what they want, and they've shown they are perfectly willing to sacrifice their people to win. It's the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people who will lose.

This is probably correct, except that Hamas is badly miscalculating the outcome.

Israel’s far right government will claim as much land as possible, then hold it. In their calculation, they’re already unsafe, so there’s no downside.

Anonymous wrote:If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.

Because Israel is playing right into their hands. They want the destruction of Israel. They cannot beat Israel while Israel has the support of the world, especially the US. Israel rapidly destroying that support with every fresh war crime revealed, and every new photo of a starving child. When this is over, Israel will be a pariah state, and Jewish people will be far less safe. Hamas is getting exactly what they want, and they've shown they are perfectly willing to sacrifice their people to win. It's the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people who will lose.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a genocide. The only people saying it’s not a genocide are members of a fanatical religious cult.

Try again. I’m not religious, let alone in a cult, but my grandparents survived a REAL genocide so maybe I see things differently from you.

Those who survived that genocide and are still alive are also calling this what it is—a genocide. Jewish people do not own the word. It's defined as the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. Please tell me how this is not a genocide?

Israeli leaders have referred to Palestinians as animals. They have been quite open about their intent to "erase Gaza." Why do you continue to deny what can very plainly be seen?

Except that’s not what’s happening. Palestinians aren’t being rounded up and killed because they are Arab; they’re dying because there’s a war going on that they started. These are ethnically the same kind of people, unlike their terrorist brethren, who can live peacefully in Israel, are elected in government, vote freely, etc. If there was a genocide going on, wouldn’t the Israelis have rounded up and/or murdered all the Palestinians who live peacefully within Israel?

This is not a war. Innocents are being systematically exterminated. No one is fighting is Israel. They are the only ones dropping bombs.

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Anonymous wrote:The USA is the country that can exert pressure on Israel to let in humanitarian aid since we spend billions in tax payer dollars each year supporting Israel with military aid. Sounds like Trump *might* be willing to do that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/16/world/europe/trump-gaza-starvation-famine-us-israel-aid.html
Trump Says ‘a Lot of People Are Starving’ in Gaza and the U.S. Wants to Help
Humanitarian support has collapsed in the enclave, which has been under total Israeli blockade for more than two months. Aid groups warn that the territory is on the brink of famine.

This. We spend so much money funding Israel while we cut off funding on foreign aid to nearly every country of the world. You need to call your Congressperson/write the President and say that allowing the USA to pay for Israel tanks, while starving Palestinian children to death is not OK.

I suppose begging our Congress members can't hurt but you and I both know 95% of them care a lot more about the folks funding their campaigns than they do their constituents. We can either continue to vote for Rs and Ds with the hopes that somehow everything will magically get better or we break our loyalties and watch them come crawling back to us.

If there’s a genocide going on, why doesn’t Hamas surrender? They can’t win this war, the Arab countries nearby aren’t coming to their side, so does Hamas just hate its own people so much to let them die? If the alternative is willing the war with Israel, that has a zero percent chance of happening.