Anonymous
Post 08/11/2025 15:57     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.


The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.


It is Aug 11 … did the RIFs materialize?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 09:36     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.


RAND has the staff with skill sets that GER needs. The problem is GER doesn't want to hire RAND staff on their projects.


I understand you feel that way. Nonetheless, no one is closing positions because it would look bad to be hiring during RIFs, because that's a completely normal thing that organizations do. You should assume RIFs will happen as contracts get cancelled or not renewed.


Tell me you’ve never run a large org before without telling me.

Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 09:21     Subject: FFRDCs

“https://hpc.mil/“
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 09:16     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?


This is a risky bet since the lifespan of GPUs is around 2 years before they become obsolete.
MITRE negotiated for/committed to the supercomputer during the Biden Admin. The MITRE system isn't particularly high end, though obviously a significant investment. It was perhaps a reasonable investment given a then/then expected semi-rational Federal Government and a MITRE annual research budget of about $100M per year. Given semi-rational isn't what we've ended up with, it's hard to imagine how it'll pay off.


The Federal Government has an entire HPC ecosystem with shared supercomputers at various locations. Certainly, the Federal Government does not need to buy computer time from MITRE. Not sure what the revenue model might be.


nitrd.gov
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 08:56     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?


This is a risky bet since the lifespan of GPUs is around 2 years before they become obsolete.
MITRE negotiated for/committed to the supercomputer during the Biden Admin. The MITRE system isn't particularly high end, though obviously a significant investment. It was perhaps a reasonable investment given a then/then expected semi-rational Federal Government and a MITRE annual research budget of about $100M per year. Given semi-rational isn't what we've ended up with, it's hard to imagine how it'll pay off.


The Federal Government has an entire HPC ecosystem with shared supercomputers at various locations. Certainly, the Federal Government does not need to buy computer time from MITRE. Not sure what the revenue model might be.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2025 01:06     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.


RAND has the staff with skill sets that GER needs. The problem is GER doesn't want to hire RAND staff on their projects.


I understand you feel that way. Nonetheless, no one is closing positions because it would look bad to be hiring during RIFs, because that's a completely normal thing that organizations do. You should assume RIFs will happen as contracts get cancelled or not renewed.


This response is weird and sounds corporate. RAND must be in really bad shape if in fact their management is monitoring this silly website…
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 22:11     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?


This is a risky bet since the lifespan of GPUs is around 2 years before they become obsolete.
MITRE negotiated for/committed to the supercomputer during the Biden Admin. The MITRE system isn't particularly high end, though obviously a significant investment. It was perhaps a reasonable investment given a then/then expected semi-rational Federal Government and a MITRE annual research budget of about $100M per year. Given semi-rational isn't what we've ended up with, it's hard to imagine how it'll pay off.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 21:59     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.


RAND has the staff with skill sets that GER needs. The problem is GER doesn't want to hire RAND staff on their projects.


I understand you feel that way. Nonetheless, no one is closing positions because it would look bad to be hiring during RIFs, because that's a completely normal thing that organizations do. You should assume RIFs will happen as contracts get cancelled or not renewed.


How do you know? You sound like RAND HR.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 21:50     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.


RAND has the staff with skill sets that GER needs. The problem is GER doesn't want to hire RAND staff on their projects.


I understand you feel that way. Nonetheless, no one is closing positions because it would look bad to be hiring during RIFs, because that's a completely normal thing that organizations do. You should assume RIFs will happen as contracts get cancelled or not renewed.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 20:06     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.


RAND has the staff with skill sets that GER needs. The problem is GER doesn't want to hire RAND staff on their projects.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 19:10     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.


MITRE is hiring even though there will be additional RIFs. Very common to hire during layoffs because you're looking for skill sets that the employees being laid off don't have.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 19:05     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?


This is a risky bet since the lifespan of GPUs is around 2 years before they become obsolete.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 21:49     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?
The Trump Administration is killing off all inconvenient results of science/analytics, destroying underlying data/data sources, and eliminating Federal Agencies and contractors involved in all such work.

Not exactly clear how any moderately self-respecting organization could generate a path forward.


Rest assured that some places are managing this better than others.
Did you note “self-respecting”?


CNA is self-respecting.
MITRE’s issues are primarily Federal Civil. I’m not particularly familiar with CNA’s Treasury or HHS work.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 21:05     Subject: FFRDCs

I think RAND may be preparing to RIF people soon. That is why job announcements for GER will be closing this weekend bc it would look bad for them to be hiring new people during any RIF.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 20:35     Subject: FFRDCs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious what people think of MITRE's investment in a supercomputer. The non-DoD side has been investing heavily in advancing technologies/partnerships that move MITRE into highly technical advanced work. But so far big price tags and limited ROI. Is there a path forward?
The Trump Administration is killing off all inconvenient results of science/analytics, destroying underlying data/data sources, and eliminating Federal Agencies and contractors involved in all such work.

Not exactly clear how any moderately self-respecting organization could generate a path forward.


Rest assured that some places are managing this better than others.
Did you note “self-respecting”?


CNA is self-respecting.