Anonymous
11/14/2024 02:34
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
The numbers don't lie
It's actually this:
Red Bull
u15 - 1
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 3
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Do you have stats for non-Academies? I heard many made the next round. Shocking 0 from DCU.
This has actually been covered in this thread. If you're not in a MLS academy you have practically ZERO, and I mean almost ZERO chance of making the final national team camps. You may make a regional camp but that is as far as a kid will go from pay to play clubs. If you're at a pay to play club in the DMV you will never make the actual national team the way the current system is structured with the MLS filtering and basically running the youth pool. Unless you are FAR better than everyone else in the pool which is extremely rare. The only reason why the pay to play clubs/players even get a chance in the regional camps is political. US Soccer throws those clubs a bone to give the impression that they are being equitable and to help pay to play clubs with their narratives about ability to get kids national team exposure for the commercial side of their businesses. But everyone knows those kids will never make it to the national team just on the fact that they aren't in a MLS academy and the national team rosters are 99 percent MLS academy players. The other players making it that are not in MLS academies are coming from overseas clubs that are FAR superior to the MLS. What you really see as the kids get older and to the real national team is that the pendulum shifts. The majority of the players for the Mens national team are coming from overseas because they are just in better environments and playing at a higher level. USSF doesn't want to give off the impression that the US can't field strong youth teams with just domestic talent. It would be a complete and utter failure on their part if this was the case and they are already pretty much inept as an organization. Why only 3-4 overseas players usually make the youth national teams from overseas. If they weren't on such weak footing in terms of their efficacy at the youth levels, and didn't care about that perception, the youth national teams would literally be made up of all kids from overseas who have eligibility to play for the US because all of them are better than our domestic talent. Just like the first team. Let THAT sink in.
DCU isn't even a real player in this game.
It isn't shocking that DCU players are not in the camps. They are not as strong nationally especially when up against kids in better environments and with more athletic ability. You see this clearly when they play better systems and academies. It's obvious in the first 5 minutes that they don't know what they are doing (over dribbling/useless contacts on the ball, poor decision making, lack of understanding of how to move without the ball, weak positional discipline, shaky fundamentals, zero understanding of team strategy/but strong understanding of individualism and generally poor weak foot ability). This is present in all ages at DCU not one team. Even with this, they are regionally strong and a step above most regional talent. But even regionally, there are kids that are better and developing faster. Nationally they are a few steps behind. Why Philly and Red Bulls have so much representation and DCU doesn't.
Anonymous
11/14/2024 01:49
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And if you're a DCU parent you have to ask yourself, why did none of our kids make the cut? It's because they are in an environment that isn't about their development. One that doesn't prioritize, emphasize or measure their improvement as players and their understanding of the game overall. It is a bare bones academy that just gets by year to year. One of the worst academy systems in the MLS but one of the best regions for talent. The only ones that are losing are the kids and for that, it is a shame.
If you're not a DCU parent, then you're definitely in the wrong lane.
Try as hard as you'd like, the parents with kids at DCU don't care about your emotions and feelings.
If only you knew...Your posts are so transparent. It's not about anyone's emotions or feelings. It's about the actual, real truth about DCU, which you are clearly in denial of. And something that DCU wants to brush under the rug. The smart parents at DCU for the most part know these issues and problems but again, accept them because there are no alternatives. You're the only parent seeming to be an outsider. If you don't care then why are you posting?? Just let it go.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 19:48
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:And if you're a DCU parent you have to ask yourself, why did none of our kids make the cut? It's because they are in an environment that isn't about their development. One that doesn't prioritize, emphasize or measure their improvement as players and their understanding of the game overall. It is a bare bones academy that just gets by year to year. One of the worst academy systems in the MLS but one of the best regions for talent. The only ones that are losing are the kids and for that, it is a shame.
If you're not a DCU parent, then you're definitely in the wrong lane.
Try as hard as you'd like, the parents with kids at DCU don't care about your emotions and feelings.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 18:12
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
The numbers don't lie
It's actually this:
Red Bull
u15 - 1
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 3
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Do you have stats for non-Academies? I heard many made the next round. Shocking 0 from DCU.
No I don't have any info on USYNT ID invites except for the ones DS went to. I don't think that info is made public unless someone posts the list. From what I've seen in the last couple of years, the final team is always made up of academy kids.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 17:58
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
The numbers don't lie
It's actually this:
Red Bull
u15 - 1
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 3
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Do you have stats for non-Academies? I heard many made the next round. Shocking 0 from DCU.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 17:39
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
And one PP said these usynt selections are political and that is probably true. That's true everywhere. But that just means that in addition to running a subpar academy in the MLS, DCU also has little to no political pull with US Soccer. Pull that, if they had it, would get an ok kid a look or a chance (the complete standouts are getting a chance pretty much anywhere they show up) Another reason why DCU is very limiting in terms of the upside potential of the academy.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 17:29
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
And just one more concrete example of why DCU is not a strong academy
Anonymous
11/13/2024 17:27
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
And if you're a DCU parent you have to ask yourself, why did none of our kids make the cut? It's because they are in an environment that isn't about their development. One that doesn't prioritize, emphasize or measure their improvement as players and their understanding of the game overall. It is a bare bones academy that just gets by year to year. One of the worst academy systems in the MLS but one of the best regions for talent. The only ones that are losing are the kids and for that, it is a shame.
Anonymous
11/13/2024 17:06
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
The numbers don't lie
It's actually this:
Red Bull
u15 - 1
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 3
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Anonymous
11/13/2024 16:54
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
The numbers don't lie
Anonymous
11/13/2024 15:03
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 1
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 3
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Anonymous
11/13/2024 14:07
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like the rest of the majority here, if dc academy comes calling, my kid is going
The keyboard warriors here won't change that
Of course your kid is going, no one said not to. The point is that if you get multiple offers, weigh your options carefully. If DCU is your only offer, take it. You should read through the thread before replying.
Stop being ridiculous and unrealistic!
How many kids in the dmv are going to get multiple offers to join MLS academies elsewhere?
All those other academies have good players in their own regions.
You think its advice to tell all of us here whos kid won't even be invited to DC Academy that we should be considering other academies?
The majority of us can't even get into SYC or Achilles.
Get Real!
Silly
Many DMV kids have gotten multiple offers and will continue to do so. Do you even know there are a bunch of DMV kids at other academies?
If your DS isn't academy level or can't even get into SYC or Achilles, wtf are you responding to this thread for? It obviously doesn't apply to you guys. Get real, stay in your lane.
Many kids is a flat out lie.
Why not just say some or a few kids?
It's the truth and doesn't ruin your credibility.
Ok... SOME or a FEW kids are on the USYNT, from U15 though u19, that are from MD/VA and are playing for academies that is not DCU. Kids that would have been at DCUA if they had no other option.
MANY kids from the DMV are spread out across the US playing on different Academy teams.
Is that a little better?
Anonymous
11/13/2024 14:00
Subject: Re: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:USMNT DCU bias only 2 DCU kids all age groups?
Where do you see DCU kids?
U17 and U16 November camp rosters came out today and no DCU players on the roster. Union and red bulls are represented on both.
The International behemoth Red Bulls has 1 player on U17 and none on U15
They are probably the best U16 team in the country but strangely has only 2
Irrelevant. These stats are all better than what DCU is doing and how it's performing on a national scale...You're trying to tear down a club that is actually getting results but yet, have nothing to offer about DCU?? Doesn't work like that. DCU is not on the same level and not a strong academy. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Red Bulls had 25 players not make U15s
Same as DCU
Red Bulls had 24 players not make U17s
1 less than DC
Red Bulls had 23 players not make U16's
2 less than DC
Red Bull
u15 - 0
u16 - 2
u17 - 2
Philly
u15 - 2
u16 - 1
u17 - 3
DCU
u15 - 0
u16 - 0
u17 - 0
Anonymous
11/11/2024 17:47
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
49 pages later...Is DCU a strong academy or not?? Pretty clear from what I've read and learned, it isn't.
Anonymous
11/11/2024 17:45
Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like the rest of the majority here, if dc academy comes calling, my kid is going
The keyboard warriors here won't change that
Of course your kid is going, no one said not to. The point is that if you get multiple offers, weigh your options carefully. If DCU is your only offer, take it. You should read through the thread before replying.
Stop being ridiculous and unrealistic!
How many kids in the dmv are going to get multiple offers to join MLS academies elsewhere?
All those other academies have good players in their own regions.
Right, they have good players in their own regions so they don't pick up studs from other states. Can you tell me what they use those residency/homestay programs for? The dorms they have at their facilities are used for what?
All the clubs with homestays are filled with (many) dmv players?
No other region or area has good players for them to choose from?
No one said that. What was said is that many players from the DMV have left for other MLS academies around the country. And this is in fact true. Seriously you're a troll...
Some local players have left on lateral moves to other MLS academies.
Some completely on their own initiative and some as a saving move after failing to impress here. Quit or get fired scenario.
As for this top ballers term thrown around loosely. If you aren't playing with men at 16, 17 already and have an agent, you ain't no "top baller".
Why aren't the people repeatedly posting toxicity about dcua not trolls?
"Lateral move"... Depends on which academy they moved to. Which is pretty slim since DCUA sits near the bottom of the totem pole.
Quit or get fired is hard to believe. If they can't make it at DCU, how are they earning a residency/homestay spot at a better academy? Those spots are reserved for stand out players. Unless you're saying his whole family relocated.
And to be fair, he did say top ballers IN OUR AREA. %1 of kids play in an academy, fewer get residency/homestay offers. I'd say they are top ballers.
Since when did posting facts become toxicity? Please give us examples of what you mean by toxic.
Well said