Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 08:21     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women. But he just said it to women.

[…]

And if you want human beings to have more chances to be fully human and not to be wage slaves, and for corporations not to be the most powerful voice in the room, vote straight Democratic ticket and get Citizens United overturned. The GOP is happy to grind us all to dust for the benefit of the very few.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 07:07     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just a gentle reminder that it was Harrison Butker's mother's career as an Emory University physicist that provided Harrison Butker with the wealth and privilege to tell women that their greatest goal in life should be staying home and raising children.

He has mommy issues. I'm sure of it.


+1

Just another misogynistic bro DB with mommy issues.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 00:50     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this guy's speech. He's a super conservative Catholic who gave a speech reflecting his values and opinions to a mostly like-minded audience, so what? Most of these posters wouldn't bat an eye at some ultra progressive person giving an ultra progressive speech at a super lefty college. The whole "controversy" is so dumb, especially since his comments about how most of the women in the graduating class are probably looking forward to being SAHMs instead of having careers was probably true given the composition of the college where spoke.

This is the U.S. we have freedom of speech and, gasp, many people don't agree with progressive orthodoxy.


I agree that the reaction to the speech seems a bit excessive, but the reason it struck such a chord and has become amplified is because his comments are being viewed in the context of multiple legislative efforts to erode the position of women in our society. Women's rights over their bodies, reproductive rights, and personal autonomy are under siege. It's as if Butker lifted the veil for a moment and showed us what the religious fanatics on the Supreme Court, in Congress, and in state legislatures think of women and their proper place in society. I can assure you that more people agree with what you call "progressive orthodoxy" than they do with the type of Christofascism being promoted by Butker and the other religious fundamentalists in state and national government. So while Butker obvious has the freedom to express his minority religious views, the rest of us have the freedom to express our disagreement with those views.


Religious fanatics? You think Roe was well reasoned law? Love to have this debate.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 00:49     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Reality is most men and women find the most pleasure in finding a compatible spouse whom they love and raising children together. Only today has this become controversial. Sad for our times.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 22:14     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this guy's speech. He's a super conservative Catholic who gave a speech reflecting his values and opinions to a mostly like-minded audience, so what? Most of these posters wouldn't bat an eye at some ultra progressive person giving an ultra progressive speech at a super lefty college. The whole "controversy" is so dumb, especially since his comments about how most of the women in the graduating class are probably looking forward to being SAHMs instead of having careers was probably true given the composition of the college where spoke.

This is the U.S. we have freedom of speech and, gasp, many people don't agree with progressive orthodoxy.


I agree that the reaction to the speech seems a bit excessive, but the reason it struck such a chord and has become amplified is because his comments are being viewed in the context of multiple legislative efforts to erode the position of women in our society. Women's rights over their bodies, reproductive rights, and personal autonomy are under siege. It's as if Butker lifted the veil for a moment and showed us what the religious fanatics on the Supreme Court, in Congress, and in state legislatures think of women and their proper place in society. I can assure you that more people agree with what you call "progressive orthodoxy" than they do with the type of Christofascism being promoted by Butker and the other religious fundamentalists in state and national government. So while Butker obvious has the freedom to express his minority religious views, the rest of us have the freedom to express our disagreement with those views.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 22:11     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this guy's speech. He's a super conservative Catholic who gave a speech reflecting his values and opinions to a mostly like-minded audience, so what? Most of these posters wouldn't bat an eye at some ultra progressive person giving an ultra progressive speech at a super lefty college. The whole "controversy" is so dumb, especially since his comments about how most of the women in the graduating class are probably looking forward to being SAHMs instead of having careers was probably true given the composition of the college where spoke.

This is the U.S. we have freedom of speech and, gasp, many people don't agree with progressive orthodoxy.


The same people xcream
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 22:08     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


It’s actually serving God, not your H.


Yeah... in a lot of Christian denominations, "God" wants you to be subservient to your husband. <vomit>
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 21:29     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this guy's speech. He's a super conservative Catholic who gave a speech reflecting his values and opinions to a mostly like-minded audience, so what? Most of these posters wouldn't bat an eye at some ultra progressive person giving an ultra progressive speech at a super lefty college. The whole "controversy" is so dumb, especially since his comments about how most of the women in the graduating class are probably looking forward to being SAHMs instead of having careers was probably true given the composition of the college where spoke.

This is the U.S. we have freedom of speech and, gasp, many people don't agree with progressive orthodoxy.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 21:24     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.[/quote]

This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.[/quote]

I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?[/quote]

Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.[/quote]

you know what is NOT liberation? forcing women to have constant pregnancies. [/quote]

It's 2024 in America - women have choices. Half the women in my inner circle are child-free by choice. [/quote]

You have your head in the sand. People like this idiot kicker want to take choice away from women.[/quote]

Tell that to the red state white women who make the choice to vote for and fornicate with men who hate women. Make better choices women or stop complaining about the patriarchy and your loss of reproductive freedom.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 19:53     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.


you know what is NOT liberation? forcing women to have constant pregnancies.


It's 2024 in America - women have choices. Half the women in my inner circle are child-free by choice.


You have your head in the sand. People like this idiot kicker want to take choice away from women.


+1
This guy speaks out against both IVF and natural family planning.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 18:46     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.


you know what is NOT liberation? forcing women to have constant pregnancies.


It's 2024 in America - women have choices. Half the women in my inner circle are child-free by choice.


You have your head in the sand. People like this idiot kicker want to take choice away from women.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 18:39     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.


you know what is NOT liberation? forcing women to have constant pregnancies.


It's 2024 in America - women have choices. Half the women in my inner circle are child-free by choice.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 18:34     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.


you know what is NOT liberation? forcing women to have constant pregnancies.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 17:33     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


Was Butker saying that women shouldn’t be allowed to work? No. He was implying that most women would get more enjoyment out of being around their families than by being at a job. I would go a step further and say that this holds for all people, not just women.

The issue is that we’re trapped in a capitalist society where if no one works you’re on the street. “Liberation” for some in this thread means leaving your children with working class women working for crumbs so you can pursue your career while your children spend the majority of their day with strangers instead of someone who truly loves them. “Liberation” for some means working for a boss who treats you like an expendable cog rather than spending more time with people who literally share your DNA.

For all of human history up until the Industrial Age both parents stayed home with their families. It is what it is now, but I don’t see how it should be some sort of ideal to leave your own kids with not even a single parent for most of the day in their childhood. That seems extremely dystopian to be honest. Hopefully work from home and AI will make it so that this brief period between the late 1800s and now is an aberration and both parents can spend more time with the people they love.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2024 17:14     Subject: NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest calling in life is slaving away in a cubicle.

At the end of your life, you will regret not having spent more time at work.


This 100%! The happiest women are those who are wage slaves to corporations who extort their labor and then lay them off in their 50s when they’re no longer needed. It’s so more rewarding to work for people who could care less if you got cancer or died if it didn’t impact their bottom line than spending more time with family members who love you. USA! USA!

You all have swallowed this capitalist BS hook line and sinker.


I am a teacher. Do you want us to stay home, too?


It's your choice.


And, this is Butker's point. He never said you shouldn't work.
So many talking points on the left have been attributed to him that he never said.
The left gets their panties in a bunch for no reason.