Anonymous
12/31/2023 22:36
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.
Define "spike." A 20% increase isn't a spike, particularly when it comes at an expected time of year.
In what world is 20% not a spike? It’s an absurd comment.
Look at what happens with flu cases every winter. That's a spike. Or the Delta and Omicron surges. A 20% increase isn't even noticeable except by looking at reported data.
Anonymous
12/31/2023 17:17
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.
Define "spike." A 20% increase isn't a spike, particularly when it comes at an expected time of year.
In what world is 20% not a spike? It’s an absurd comment.
When cases rise from 5 to 6.
Anonymous
12/31/2023 16:48
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.
Define "spike." A 20% increase isn't a spike, particularly when it comes at an expected time of year.
In what world is 20% not a spike? It’s an absurd comment.
Anonymous
12/31/2023 10:32
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Another gauge of booster uptake:
"Pfizer plans to lay off 285 employees at its Pearl River lab campus in Rockland County beginning Feb. 12, about 28% of its total staff there ... The notice cites economic reasons behind the layoffs but does not go into greater detail. … The site is the primary research and development center for activity related to Pfizer’s collaboration with German biotechnology company BioNTech, which focuses on creating a potential mRNA-based coronavirus vaccine. Notice of the potential layoffs comes just weeks after Pfizer’s shares tumbled in early trading in the middle of December following a disappointing forecast for 2024, driven partially by withering demand for Covid vaccines and pills."
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/health-care/pfizer-lay-285-amid-declining-covid-vaccine-sales
"Pfizer plans to lay off 285 employees at its Pearl River lab campus in Rockland County beginning Feb. 12, about 28% of its total staff there ... The notice cites economic reasons behind the layoffs but does not go into greater detail. … The site is the primary research and development center for activity related to Pfizer’s collaboration with German biotechnology company BioNTech, which focuses on creating a potential mRNA-based coronavirus vaccine. Notice of the potential layoffs comes just weeks after Pfizer’s shares tumbled in early trading in the middle of December following a disappointing forecast for 2024, driven partially by withering demand for Covid vaccines and pills."
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/health-care/pfizer-lay-285-amid-declining-covid-vaccine-sales
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:59
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.
Define "spike." A 20% increase isn't a spike, particularly when it comes at an expected time of year.
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:56
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
There is actually a huge spike in covid cases currently
No, there's not. There's a relatively small increase in covid cases compared to the >20x increase we see with influenza every winter.
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:42
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Swiss canton Bern only recommends the new covid booster for people 65+ years old and the medically vulnerable who are 16+ years old. For everyone else:
"Vaccination is not recommended for all other people, as there is hardly any risk of serious illness in people without risk factors."
https://www.gsi.be.ch/de/start/themen/coronavirus/impfen/boostercheck.html
That isn't the CDC or even an organization within the United States.
Nearly every other nation in the world only recommends the new covid booster for the elderly and the medically vulnerable. The US is an outlier in recommending the booster for all.
Because they have universal healthcare and the vaccine is expensive. They are making population level decisions based on cost.
Universal health care isn't as great as you think. We have tricare which is the equivalent of it. It takes weeks to months to get a primary care appointment and often not with your doctor and if you schedule it with your doctor, you are often seen by someone else. You wait months for specialists, or get referred off network and generally only bad doctors take tricare as it pays so low. Doctors are very dismissive of health issues and the current protocol is to put you on medications, like cholesterol and not regularly test you to see if it's working or what's going on. And the wait for specialists, MRI's/CT/Ultra Sounds is months. I cannot just call a clinic and ask for one and get it within a week or so.
I have private insurance and deal with the exact same things, except I pay thousands for the privilege. It once took me two months to get preapproval for a diagnostic CT scan despite having a “stat” order. That’s what for-profit healthcare looks like in America now.
If you want better, you need to pay for concierge.
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:34
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Swiss canton Bern only recommends the new covid booster for people 65+ years old and the medically vulnerable who are 16+ years old. For everyone else:
"Vaccination is not recommended for all other people, as there is hardly any risk of serious illness in people without risk factors."
https://www.gsi.be.ch/de/start/themen/coronavirus/impfen/boostercheck.html
That isn't the CDC or even an organization within the United States.
Nearly every other nation in the world only recommends the new covid booster for the elderly and the medically vulnerable. The US is an outlier in recommending the booster for all.
Because they have universal healthcare and the vaccine is expensive. They are making population level decisions based on cost.
Universal health care isn't as great as you think. We have tricare which is the equivalent of it. It takes weeks to months to get a primary care appointment and often not with your doctor and if you schedule it with your doctor, you are often seen by someone else. You wait months for specialists, or get referred off network and generally only bad doctors take tricare as it pays so low. Doctors are very dismissive of health issues and the current protocol is to put you on medications, like cholesterol and not regularly test you to see if it's working or what's going on. And the wait for specialists, MRI's/CT/Ultra Sounds is months. I cannot just call a clinic and ask for one and get it within a week or so.
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:30
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
There is actually a huge spike in covid cases currently
Anonymous
12/30/2023 18:29
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Does the vax stop people who would be asymptomatic carriers from becoming asymptomatic carriers?
Nope. That’s what the masks are for.
Anonymous
12/30/2023 11:08
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Does the vax stop people who would be asymptomatic carriers from becoming asymptomatic carriers?
Anonymous
12/30/2023 09:05
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Per the Washington Post, there is currently a Covid 19 spike occurring.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 22:59
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why PP? What is it about this booster just curious?
My doctor and my kids' pediatrician weren't against the booster by any means, but they said not to expect it to have much of a benefit after about 2-3 months. I already knew that, but was a bit surprised they were both so up-front about it.
Was he/she/they suggesting re-vaccinating every three months??
No. I'm not that pp, but you definitely want to get the vaccine before respiratory virus season, when you will be indoors with more people. It's the same with the flu shot.
There's a huge spike in flu cases in the winter, but only a relatively small increase in covid cases. It's really not comparable.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 22:56
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Swiss canton Bern only recommends the new covid booster for people 65+ years old and the medically vulnerable who are 16+ years old. For everyone else:
"Vaccination is not recommended for all other people, as there is hardly any risk of serious illness in people without risk factors."
https://www.gsi.be.ch/de/start/themen/coronavirus/impfen/boostercheck.html
That isn't the CDC or even an organization within the United States.
Nearly every other nation in the world only recommends the new covid booster for the elderly and the medically vulnerable. The US is an outlier in recommending the booster for all.
Because they have universal healthcare and the vaccine is expensive. They are making population level decisions based on cost.
It's really not that expensive, particularly in those other countries. And many of those countries already bought a certain number of doses, many of which will never find their way into an arm.
In short, no, that's not the reason. The available data simply doesn't demonstrate a benefit for most people. That doesn't necessarily mean there isn't one, but there isn't currently data supporting that claim.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 20:21
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Swiss canton Bern only recommends the new covid booster for people 65+ years old and the medically vulnerable who are 16+ years old. For everyone else:
"Vaccination is not recommended for all other people, as there is hardly any risk of serious illness in people without risk factors."
https://www.gsi.be.ch/de/start/themen/coronavirus/impfen/boostercheck.html
That isn't the CDC or even an organization within the United States.
Nearly every other nation in the world only recommends the new covid booster for the elderly and the medically vulnerable. The US is an outlier in recommending the booster for all.
Because they have universal healthcare and the vaccine is expensive. They are making population level decisions based on cost.